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re: Klinsmann hasn't spoken to Donovan about his sendoff match... on the 10th.

Posted on 10/3/14 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 10/3/14 at 1:48 pm to
Regarding the actual game, how much run do you think JK gives LD?

I'm thinking the first 25 minutes or so before subbing him off. 1) That's how these things usually work 2) Klinsi doesn't want to run the risk of Donovan out-performing some of his guys that are established in the pool.

It would be hilarious if Donovan comes off for Green, Davis or Wondo, though, all things considered.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 10/3/14 at 1:50 pm to
I've seen maybe a handful of Wondo games in USMNT and dozens for San Jose. I'll defer.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
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Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:25 pm to
He's an entirely different player for club and country. With Wondo, it always felt like the national team was too big of a stage for him.

Similar to Torres and Kljestan - plenty talented enough, just didn't have "it" at the international level.
Posted by svb
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 10:34 pm to
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no doubt. His MLS form alone this year has convinced me.


Eh, he wasn't doing much before the WC, to be fair.



Unless you are saying that his form shows that he still could have done something, in which case I agree with you.
Posted by Boomtown
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 7:56 am to
The worst kept secret in sports, these two do not like each other
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:43 am to
A poor start to one MLS season should not wipe out a player of his caliber. A month of poor form does not wipe out 12 years.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:41 am to
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@AlexiLalas (10/8/14, 9:46 AM): A source @USsoccer tells me that @J_Klinsmann called Landon Donovan about 10 days ago w/ all details re his upcoming final #USMNT game


I am not sure when Grant Wahl actually conducted his interview with Donovan (the article was posted on 10/2).

The above tweet was followed by this one:

quote:

@AlexiLalas (10/8/14, 9:48 AM): A source @USsoccer tells me that @J_Klinsmann's son emailed Landon Donovan an apology right after the #USMNT tweet incident in May


Not posting this with any agenda. Do with it what you will.

This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 10:51 am
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:48 am to
There's more now:

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@Grant Wahl (10/8/14, 10:25 AM): U.S. Soccer Source also says Klinsmann left Donovan a voicemail in week before SI interview 9/26


quote:

@Grant Wahl (10/8/14, 10:25 AM): U.S. Soccer source confirms @AlexiLalas report, says Klinsmann's son sent apology e-mail to Donovan in May


Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:33 pm to
Probably went to spam box.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19548 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:00 pm to
Oh, what a tangled web we weave.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:17 pm to
I really didn't expect to still be so angry at Klinsmann.

As others have said, if leaving Donovan at home was a personal decision, then he's an a-hole for putting his hurt feelings above the well-being of our team.

If it was a tactical decision, then I have lost all faith in him as the head of our program because a fricking 9 year old would have known that Donovan makes us better.

It was such a shitty situation that I still can't believe how poorly it was handled. All I can hope now is that he stays the frick out of Donovan's curtain call this Friday as much as possible.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71828 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:42 pm to
Damn, if that's true then it makes Landon look very petty.

frick, I hate how there is this cloud of controversy surrounding this game when it should just be a celebration for the best player our country has ever produced.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

Eh, he wasn't doing much before the WC, to be fair.



I know, which was why I wasn't among the Klinsmann haters. I disagreed but understood.

quote:

Unless you are saying that his form shows that he still could have done something, in which case I agree with you.



We agree then.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

frick, I hate how there is this cloud of controversy surrounding this game when it should just be a celebration for the best player our country has ever produced.



To be fair, I think it will be a celebration and there won't be much of a cloud, in the end.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19548 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Damn, if that's true then it makes Landon look very petty. 


Yeah. Somebody in this situation is full of shite. I think I know who that is, but I'm certainly not sure.

I hope somebody writes a book about this one day.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71828 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Yeah. Somebody in this situation is full of shite. I think I know who that is, but I'm certainly not sure.

I hope somebody writes a book about this one day.


It's becoming obvious that both are being passive aggressive little bitches, which is unfortunate because it's a marquee player and the head coach.

A book or a 30 for 30 needs to be made.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:06 pm to
JK doesn't strike me as passive aggressive. Landon does. Just my two pennies.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71828 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

JK doesn't strike me as passive aggressive.


Ever since Donovan came back into the fold after his Cambodia adventure, JK refused to concede anything to him or say anything overly positive about him even when he was, by far, the best player in the Gold Cup and in the WCQ's against Costa Rica and Mexico.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19548 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

JK doesn't strike me as passive aggressive. Landon does. Just my two pennies. 


Agreed. Jurgen strikes me as a sociopathic type A achiever (step on or use anyone for their own benefit without a thought of the impact.) You see them from time to time in the corporate world and hearing Jurgen talk in interviews and in the ESPN series before the WC, he came across just like every other one of them I've encountered.

They've pumped themselves full of so much shite about how amazing and impressive they are that it literally oozes out of every word and action.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
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Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:07 am to
Wow. Not sure I'm quite ready to diagnose JK as a sociopath just yet.
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