re: Why is the US scared to charge the Oklahoma beheader with terrorism?

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Obviously I don't disagree with the murder charge. I'm just not seeing why he can't be tried for both?

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Let me clarify... I don't think OKLAHOMA should be the party bringing up terrorism charges. Their statute on terrorism is pretty straight forward and I doubt they would be able to make the charge stick.

I absolutely think that the DOJ should be the one charging this guy with terrorism... but they won't do it.

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Let me clarify... I don't think OKLAHOMA should be the party bringing up terrorism charges. Their statute on terrorism is pretty straight forward and I doubt they would be able to make the charge stick.

I absolutely think that the DOJ should be the one charging this guy with terrorism... but they won't do it.

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Gotcha. That's a much better reasoning than "what difference does it make."

In any case of possible domestic terrorism I think it should be up to the DOJ to investigate and charge to the fullest extent. I think this is "bigger" than the state of Oklahoma at this point. Chopping off someones head while yelling Islamic slogans isn't a simple murder case... it's extremist ideology. It's the same shite we're fighting overseas only they brought it to our front door.

There should be a clear message that we won't tolerate this shite here. Make it an automatic death sentence and be done with it. And it shouldn't be a case of him sitting around in prison for the next 20 years. March his arse out in front of a military firing squad and put a bullet in him... send a message.

sure it doesn't.

Next you are going to tell us the Amnesty Executive Action being pushed back was coincidence.

What world do you live in?

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sure it doesn't. What world do you live in?

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I don't emotionally and knee-jerkingly react to decisions made by the government and say things like, WELL OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, DER DER DER

The fact is, there are several instances of "terrorism" that happen on our soil and we don't charge them with terrorism.

Look at the unabomber, the olympic bombing, ok city bombing, etc

if THOSE didnt have terrorism charges, then a dude beheading someone isn't

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I think the biggest issue it deals with is that if you charge someone with terrorism then you just admitted that terrorism happened on your watch.

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and by that token you are also saying, nice try a-hole, you aren't a martyr for Allah, you're just a run of the mill murderer

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if THOSE didnt have terrorism charges, then a dude beheading someone isn't

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Those also all happened under older laws. Should we just throw out domestic terrorism laws if we're never going to attempt to use them?

Do you think the Ft Hood shooting was not terrorism?

my personal belief is that murder is murder

and beating up someone is beating up someone regardless if you call them a homo and it gets labeled a hate crime

If the end result is a scumbag gets locked up or executed for their crime, IDGAF

IDGAF either way to be honest

Oh so this is where the thread went...