re: Red States are the biggest Takers

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That's cause those states have a lots of poor folks thanks to democrats.

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A lot of those states used to democrat strongholds.

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Posted by FAF
How rich would Louisiana be if we got to keep all of the profits from our O&G resources?

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Profits? The numbers already include corporate profits and income taxes paid to the Feds.

The extra money in taxes it gets from O&G wouldn't completely offset the billions that the state gets from the Feds.

Of course that's even if tax rates remain just as high. Wouldn't Louisiana lower the tax burden?

I'm not convinced secession will make red states more conservative fiscally. Much of the reason that red states vote for Republicans is due to social issues. With that off the table as a campaigning platform, it'll leave an opening for social conservative, fiscal liberal types.

Higher percentage of blacks in the southern states than in the northern or western states.DUH.

Thats the dems constituents dumbazz.

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If you scale back subsidized housing and entitlements, perhaps that group will migrate to other states?

Military spending is huge in a lot or southern states BTW. I doubt that will slow down anytime soon.

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US military would cease immediately if a state were to secede. Where would all of those rugged, self reliant job producers who bid on contracts at all of those military bases find work? Oh yeah...I guess they would all be sitting on the porch listening to the field hands contently singing spirituals and sipping a Mint Julep.

If you scale back subsidized housing who the frick are all those rugged, self reliant job producers who own that housing going to find for tenant?

If you scale back entitlements who are those rugged, self reliant job producers going to have for customers.

Ya'll are living in a dream world...yes, there is more poverty in red states...and there are a lot of rugged, self reliant job producers who depend on that poverty to make a living. The very people who benefit the greatest will scream like a mashed kitty as soon as they realize there ain't no tenants, no customers and no federal pork to bid on. These self same people who would secede because they ain't socialists and the United States is "turning" into a socialist economy (it always has been at some level) would be begging for the good people in California and Massachussets and New York to supplement their incomes....

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It's not actually the Republicans who are the takers in these states

Its kinda entertaining how the OP (and others) subtly try to imply this claim.

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I ain't subtly implying it...I am outright saying it is a fact. The rugged, self reliant job producing republicans own businesses which rely on people who will work for lower wages and those same republicans rely on the taxpayers in Blue states to subsidize their customers AND their employees wages so they will be in a position to work for and trade with the rugged, self reliant job producers.

So what about the rugged, self reliant job producers who are direct beneficiaries of the largess of the taxpayers in blue states? Ya'll gonna drive the out also? There won't be but 20 of you left....and of that 20 15 of you will be a homeless vagrant wondering the streets of new orleans wondering where in the frick everyone is....

oh yeah, the people that provide for the dependent class would really miss them if they were gone

we miss them buying stuff with our own money...sure, that's it

This has never been discussed on this board ever.

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oh yeah, the people that provide for the dependent class would really miss them if they were gone

we miss them buying stuff with our own money...sure, that's it

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They ain't buying it your money...they are buying it blue state residents money....it is a redistribution of wealth from producers in blue states to takers in red states....and the initial recipients are merely the middle man.


You know I know a bunch...and I mean a bunch of staunch Republicans, many who think of themselves as rugged, self reliant job producers because they own a small business and have employees. Almost every one of them that I can think of off the top of my head pay their employees so little that they are entitled to all sorts of entitlements AND they will climb over their dead Mama's corpse to low ball a federal bid. I have asked these rugged, self reliant job producers why they don't lead by example and stop bidding on such work and make certain their employees are not eligible for any sort of entitlement. I have never gotten any sort of an answer other than some profanity and name calling.

So I ask the same question here: If you consider yourself a rugged, self reliant job producer, do you make a point to pay your employees enough that they are not eligible for any sort of entitlement and do you refuse to trade with anyone on public assistance and bid or trade with any sort of government entity? You have it in your power to do so.....lead by example....even if it for 90 days only until your seeking protection from federally funded bankruptcy court.

Speaking of which...if you have a bad debt do you use the power of the state to collect / lien that debt? Just curious.....if you do you are dangerously close to be a socialist my friend....