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re: 1991 was the last year a pac 12 team won the national title
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:53 pm to PrimeTime Money
assuming teams already pay players is not that far fetched since teams have gotten caught and teams/conferences are actively trying to legalize paying players.
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Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:54 pm to Volvagia
yeah here's that article about the ting brothers at usc with the steroids
carroll said they were retiring from the team to focus on academics
then someone leaked that one had tested positive for steroids
that was carroll's m.o. at usc - just try to hide all the bad and be the "player's coach"
carroll said they were retiring from the team to focus on academics
then someone leaked that one had tested positive for steroids
that was carroll's m.o. at usc - just try to hide all the bad and be the "player's coach"
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:54 pm to TH03
quote:Then you have to revise your argument that it was legit because you "saw them with your own eyes win the championship". Otherwise your argument makes no sense.
cheating on the field with PEDs and cheating by paying players is not at all the same.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:55 pm to runningTiger
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:55 pm to TH03
quote:But assuming all teams do it is a big leap.
assuming teams already pay players is not that far fetched since teams have gotten caught and teams/conferences are actively trying to legalize paying players.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:56 pm to runningTiger
Didn't Cushing also test positive?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:56 pm to runningTiger
So he got some steroid users off of his team but allowed them to save a little face in the process?
This Pete Carroll seems like a real bad guy. Good thing he had some cover by winning back to back titles.
This Pete Carroll seems like a real bad guy. Good thing he had some cover by winning back to back titles.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:56 pm to PrimeTime Money
it makes perfect sense. if I saw them with my own eyes and it turned out they all were on roids, they gained a significant on field advantage that would have helped them dominate.
that's not the same as paying players already on your team.
you keep trying to play devils advocate, but you're failing at it.
that's not the same as paying players already on your team.
you keep trying to play devils advocate, but you're failing at it.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:57 pm to TH03
quote:
lance's cheating directly affected his performance. that's not the same
Today I learned that team performance has nothing to do with the composition of its members.
Because that is the only way you can argue cheating to get better players to get better performance is not the same as ingesting something to get better performance.
You are losing sight of the comparison because as a team sport the dynamic of relationship between the two isn't as clear.
But its still there.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
if he didnt test positive, well, let the pics speak for themselves
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:58 pm to Volvagia
please to me the competitive advantage gained by paying players who are already on your roster
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:58 pm to TH03
quote:That doesn't make any logical sense. When you say you saw them win with your own eyes, you are implying that history cannot be rewritten with the strike of a pen. Thus championships can never be taken away for any reason.
it makes perfect sense. if I saw them with my own eyes and it turned out they all were on roids, they gained a significant on field advantage that would have helped them dominate.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:59 pm to PrimeTime Money
your fedora is tipping to much.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:59 pm to TH03
quote:
please to me the competitive advantage gained by paying players who are already on your roster
paying them is the reason they are on the roster!
how difficult of a concept is this?
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:00 pm to runningTiger
quote:
paying them is the reason they are on the roster!
how difficult of a concept is this?
pretty difficult since that's not what happened.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:01 pm to runningTiger
quote:
lets say i get a 100 on a test
but get caught cheating after the fact
does that mean i really got a 100 on the test because i saw with my own eyes my grade before being caught?
A better analogy would be smoking pot and getting a 100. You did something illegal and made a 100, but the illegal act had no bearing on your score.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:02 pm to Srbtiger06
exactly what I'm saying. thank you
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:02 pm to TH03
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please to me the competitive advantage gained by paying players who are already on your roster
Now you are going to try and crawfish and hide behind vageries.
If I say "Well they probably wouldn't have had all of those players at once if they didn't do that," you'll retort that it is just an hypothectical, that there is no way to know it would have made a difference, and all around assume that USC just wasted their money as insurance against something that was probably going to happen anyway.
And that counter argument is asinine, bullshite and all around stupid.
So:
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:02 pm to TH03
Alright, I'm done. Lots of logical fallacies in your argument. It was fun.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
good day, m'gentlesir
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