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re: Tulane @ Duke - Study in Coaching Contrasts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:34 am to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:34 am to Keys Open Doors
they sure as shite looked good when they were kicking our arse
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:25 am to DelU249
quote:Those bad decisions tend to start late in the second quarter.
I will say that he fricking frustrates me with his second half decisions
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:43 am to johnnydrama
Gold Sheet is predicting 45-17 Dukies calling out the Greenies front 7 on D.
The only thing I can look forward to is that this thrashing is on Fox Sports New Orleans.
The only thing I can look forward to is that this thrashing is on Fox Sports New Orleans.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:35 pm to Evergreenie
So far CUSA is kicking the AAC's arse. Tulane lost to Tulsa who got blown out by FAU. UTSA is dominating as well and destroyed SMU.
Question, if I'm bitching too much about CJ, how long does he get before I am able to complain about losing to crap teams?
Question, if I'm bitching too much about CJ, how long does he get before I am able to complain about losing to crap teams?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:40 pm to Fat Harry
how many years in a row did Tulsa just drum us?
he beat them last year and if not for the abysmal ST situation, we beat them again this year
Tulsa was down last year true, but they've always had offense.
Then we lost to an ACC team.
We were in a position to spank Tulsa. Our defensive backs dropped six motherfricking interceptions in addition to the 2 they caught, the fumble before half...and on and on...in the end it was still a FG to win the game and we missed it
how long before you can complain? a while. This team was fricking garbage, below garbage. Now we have talented players all over the field. Yes, CJ is learning to be a coach while also moving to another conference and starting freshmen everywhere
And we're not getting waxed by Duke either.
he beat them last year and if not for the abysmal ST situation, we beat them again this year
Tulsa was down last year true, but they've always had offense.
Then we lost to an ACC team.
We were in a position to spank Tulsa. Our defensive backs dropped six motherfricking interceptions in addition to the 2 they caught, the fumble before half...and on and on...in the end it was still a FG to win the game and we missed it
how long before you can complain? a while. This team was fricking garbage, below garbage. Now we have talented players all over the field. Yes, CJ is learning to be a coach while also moving to another conference and starting freshmen everywhere
And we're not getting waxed by Duke either.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:26 pm to DelU249
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And we're not getting waxed by Duke either.
There's a pretty good chance that you do.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:28 pm to Sellecks Moustache
that one is a little more based on fan pride, but the rest is completely legit
we have a good group of skill players and lee has a big arm, we have a chance
we have a good group of skill players and lee has a big arm, we have a chance
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:33 pm to DelU249
Is this a good analysis of Tulane?
Tulane as a program is heading in the right direction, but has some weaknesses that Duke should be able to exploit. Quarterback Tanner Lee is a redshirt freshman with an NFL build and an absolute cannon of an arm. Older Duke fans think Dave Brown. He is only completing 50% of his passes but has moved the team and has 7 touchdowns in 3 games. He is very calm in the pocket, but thinks he can complete anything and has frequently thrown into coverage, even when checkdowns were available. The receivers are solid, and include two reliable seniors and three promising freshmen. Tulane has a freshman running back in Sherman Badie who is similar to Shawn Wilson - small but with breakaway speed - he is averaging over 9ypc and ran for over 200 yards at Tulsa. The defense is decent - though they lost some experienced and talented bulk up front. Linebacker Nico Marley (yes, its Bob's grandson) is only about 180lbs but plays with an amazing reckless abandon and is always around the football. The DB's are good, similar to Duke, with CB Lorenzo Doss on every pre-season award list and SS Sam Scofield a tackling machine.
But...........Duke has two HUGE advantages. First, Tulane has abysmal special teams. The freshman K missed a 20 yard game winner against Tulsa and has badly missed 2 more FG's. The punter is averaging 33 yards, has had one blocked and multiple close calls. Coverage units aren't much better, and return units are unspectacular. I'd give a 10 point edge to the Duke special teams and expect at least one special teams TD and big field position gains. The second advantage is just pure coaching. Tulane is young and undisciplined and penalty-prone. On top of that, offensive coordinator Eric Price is not a good playcaller - being hired after leading Memphis (who always has athleticism) to 120th of 121 FBS programs. Last year's Tulane team went 7-5 on the strength of its defense, while its offense was in the bottom quartile of the FBS.
If Tulane somehow plays disciplined football, Duke only has a slight edge. But special teams, overall team discipline, and offensive playcalling are all huge edges for Duke. Tulane may hang around for awhile but I'm expecting about a 3 touchdown win.
Tulane as a program is heading in the right direction, but has some weaknesses that Duke should be able to exploit. Quarterback Tanner Lee is a redshirt freshman with an NFL build and an absolute cannon of an arm. Older Duke fans think Dave Brown. He is only completing 50% of his passes but has moved the team and has 7 touchdowns in 3 games. He is very calm in the pocket, but thinks he can complete anything and has frequently thrown into coverage, even when checkdowns were available. The receivers are solid, and include two reliable seniors and three promising freshmen. Tulane has a freshman running back in Sherman Badie who is similar to Shawn Wilson - small but with breakaway speed - he is averaging over 9ypc and ran for over 200 yards at Tulsa. The defense is decent - though they lost some experienced and talented bulk up front. Linebacker Nico Marley (yes, its Bob's grandson) is only about 180lbs but plays with an amazing reckless abandon and is always around the football. The DB's are good, similar to Duke, with CB Lorenzo Doss on every pre-season award list and SS Sam Scofield a tackling machine.
But...........Duke has two HUGE advantages. First, Tulane has abysmal special teams. The freshman K missed a 20 yard game winner against Tulsa and has badly missed 2 more FG's. The punter is averaging 33 yards, has had one blocked and multiple close calls. Coverage units aren't much better, and return units are unspectacular. I'd give a 10 point edge to the Duke special teams and expect at least one special teams TD and big field position gains. The second advantage is just pure coaching. Tulane is young and undisciplined and penalty-prone. On top of that, offensive coordinator Eric Price is not a good playcaller - being hired after leading Memphis (who always has athleticism) to 120th of 121 FBS programs. Last year's Tulane team went 7-5 on the strength of its defense, while its offense was in the bottom quartile of the FBS.
If Tulane somehow plays disciplined football, Duke only has a slight edge. But special teams, overall team discipline, and offensive playcalling are all huge edges for Duke. Tulane may hang around for awhile but I'm expecting about a 3 touchdown win.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:42 pm to Sellecks Moustache
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Tulane as a program is heading in the right direction, but has some weaknesses that Duke should be able to exploit. Quarterback Tanner Lee is a redshirt freshman with an NFL build and an absolute cannon of an arm. Older Duke fans think Dave Brown. He is only completing 50% of his passes but has moved the team and has 7 touchdowns in 3 games. He is very calm in the pocket
spot on
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complete anything and has frequently thrown into coverage, even when checkdowns were available
less true than it is made out to be...the GT p6 was really a great fake and play by the LB...he fooled him. but yes, he has squeezed it into tight spots, but the INTs are more about misreading the coverage. It could easily be the other way around, but that's the way it has played out. He can't throw a fly route for shite though
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The receivers are solid, and include two reliable seniors and three promising freshmen. Tulane has a freshman running back in Sherman Badie who is similar to Shawn Wilson - small but with breakaway speed - he is averaging over 9ypc and ran for over 200 yards at Tulsa
yes to the receivers and they're underselling badie...he has been breaking tackles...and he has been awesome.
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The defense is decent - though they lost some experienced and talented bulk up front. Linebacker Nico Marley (yes, its Bob's grandson) is only about 180lbs but plays with an amazing reckless abandon and is always around the football. The DB's are good, similar to Duke, with CB Lorenzo Doss on every pre-season award list and SS Sam Scofield a tackling machine.
the DBs have more upside than they're given credit for, in the opener against Tulsa, they were always in the right position to make a huge play and didn't...dawson is good
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First, Tulane has abysmal special teams
can't be said enough
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Tulane somehow plays disciplined football, Duke only has a slight edge
if we move our KS to K and cut out the sloppy mistakes, AAAND CJ can get out of his own head in the 2nd half, we can compete with anyone.
I really don't think we'll get smoked.
Of course, when we do those stupid things, almost anyone can hang with us...the first 3 games, Johnson makes a gutsy call that doesn't work out, then becomes a fricking nun in the 2nd half
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:42 pm to DelU249
why aren't they letting Josh Rounds tote the rock?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:54 pm to wizziko
He's red shirting, may take over Dante Butler's role next year.
quote:Nice sample size
So far CUSA is kicking the AAC's arse. Tulane lost to Tulsa who got blown out by FAU. UTSA is dominating as well and destroyed SMU.
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/18/14 at 7:41 pm to D011ahbi11
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He's red shirting, may take over Dante Butler's role next year.
OK. Thought he was in the doghouse or something
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:57 pm to Sellecks Moustache
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He is very calm in the pocket, but thinks he can complete anything and has frequently thrown into coverage, even when checkdowns were available
I will agree with you on this one - he also stares down the receiver.
He'll get it, but it just takes experience. tulane is paying the price with the turnovers, though. that will kill us against mistake-free Duke.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 7:16 am to Overbrook
If you caught Scott Kushner's chat at The Advocate yesterday, he pretty much said exactly what I did. Let's hope CJ figures out a way to win.
Posted on 9/20/14 at 4:39 pm to Fat Harry
I hate to be right but damn did I call this one. SO MANY MISTAKES. TERRIBLE COACHING.
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