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re: Al Sharpton's Opinion on Rand Paul
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:24 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:24 am to TbirdSpur2010
and as i say that, the thread about atheism on the OT gets deleted
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:25 am to FT
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You don't think they're going to raise questions about his upbringing? And don't give me any shite, at all, about Obama's upbringing and "er mah gerd why didn't they talka bout that??!". That was never, ever going to be part of the discussion. Ever. By design. It was a masterful play. Obama looks above the fray by focusing on current issues, everyone else dismisses issues regarding his childhood and he lets PACs and media interests drum up the scandals about the other candidates. Meanwhile conservatives look desperate and unwilling to discuss the problems of the day.
Well, if we're speaking purely politically, what's to stop Rand from copying Obama's 2008 blueprint?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:26 am to RidiculousHype
Lack of cooperation from his party, donor base and media.
You don't think they've tried in two elections in a row?
You don't think they've tried in two elections in a row?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:27 am to RollTide4Ever
If the sun is out, this bammer has a Rand Paul thread out.
I hear Randy will start selling locks of his hair to raise money for his campaign. Save up!
I hear Randy will start selling locks of his hair to raise money for his campaign. Save up!
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:28 am to TbirdSpur2010
So you are concerned about rural southern whites?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:32 am to FT
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Lack of cooperation from his party, donor base and media.
I actually agree that the mainstream media, leaning left as it does, will hammer Paul in a way it didn't Obama. And the R's will hammer him in the primary in a way that the D's did not Obama in the 08 primary. The Clinton machine never really went hard after Obama's past.
I guess you've just highlighted the uneven playing field the two parties operate on. No wonder the right always seems frustrated, huh?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:35 am to Tigah in the ATL
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So you are concerned about rural southern whites?
No, because they are a subset of their racial demographic.
93%-95% of black people across the board are bloc voting. This is fundamentally different.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:37 am to RidiculousHype
quote:If it weren't this, it would be something else.
No wonder the right always seems frustrated, huh?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:39 am to TbirdSpur2010
that is a fair point
rural, southern, and white males is a pretty limited demographic
urban white males are a much more expansive demographic, for example, and it is pretty consistent in its voting compared to its demos
the black voting bloc applies to all regions and the rural/urban divide, and it's 90%+ across all demo groupings
the real divide in terms of US politics is "urban" and "rural". urban = DEM and rural = GOP
rural, southern, and white males is a pretty limited demographic
urban white males are a much more expansive demographic, for example, and it is pretty consistent in its voting compared to its demos
the black voting bloc applies to all regions and the rural/urban divide, and it's 90%+ across all demo groupings
the real divide in terms of US politics is "urban" and "rural". urban = DEM and rural = GOP
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:41 am to RidiculousHype
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The Clinton machine never really went hard after Obama's past.
Are you kidding? The Clintons pulled every dirty trick in the book in 2008, including playing the race card from the bottom of the deck, which is why Black folks turned on them, and Hillary went from getting 40% of the Black vote when the primaries started to single digits by the time it ended.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
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No, because they are a subset of their racial demographic.
93%-95% of black people across the board are bloc voting. This is fundamentally different.
You're making a distinction without significance. Blacks are only a subset of the American people, so making a distinction based on race is no more valid than making a distinction based on geography or culture.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:45 am to trackfan
quote:and the prospect of electing the first black president played no part in the black community "turning" on the Clintons?
which is why Black folks turned on them
Posted on 9/17/14 at 9:55 am to drexyl
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and the prospect of electing the first black president played no part in the black community "turning" on the Clintons?
That was a part of it, but Black folks didn't go into that campaign hating the Clintons, which is why Hillary still had the support of a sizeable portion Black women at the beginning, since they were torn between electing the first Black and electing the first woman. However, South Carolina changed everything.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:02 am to FT
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and the Democratic Party's campaign machine is seriously a marvel of modern political strategy.
Pretty easy to accomplish when you have every network (outside of FNC) and every popular online news source in your corner.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:03 am to Tigah in the ATL
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Another "black people are so easily duped" thread when southern white makes vote in the same bloc.
Yes, we get it - you're black. Congrats.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:06 am to TbirdSpur2010
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The bigger question is, why do blacks fall for these types of charades ?
Not all of us do.
Working on it one swarthy motherfricker at a time
I lol'd
You sir get an upvote. And good luck with your quest....
The bigger question is, why do blacks fall for these types of charades ?
Not all of us do.
Working on it one swarthy motherfricker at a time
I lol'd
You sir get an upvote. And good luck with your quest....
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:19 am to trackfan
quote:
Posted by trackfan on 9/17 at 9:44 am to TbirdSpur2010
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No, because they are a subset of their racial demographic.
You're making a distinction without significance. Blacks are only a subset of the American people, so making a distinction based on race is no more valid than making a distinction based on geography or culture
I think culture is more of a deciding factor than race but it's just too easy to use race as a filter.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 10:30 am to TbirdSpur2010
It's not fundamentally different. You just don't understand it so you assume there is something wrong with it.
Your attitude denies agency to blacks. But you assume southern whites all individually have agency but by happenstance come to the same conclusions.
Your attitude denies agency to blacks. But you assume southern whites all individually have agency but by happenstance come to the same conclusions.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 12:08 pm to Vegas Bengal
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If the sun is out, this bammer has a Rand Paul thread out.
I hear Randy will start selling locks of his hair to raise money for his campaign. Save up!
I think bxtidre7 must be his youtube account.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 12:31 pm to trackfan
it's Edmund Burke, actually. I only preach the gospel, esp. when it comes to our future potus. I stand by my 40% prediction.
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