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The pussification of America begins in elementary school
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:02 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:02 am
So, last week as I go to pick up my five year old son from after school care, a couple of his friends come running up telling me about a boy who pushed my son down and proceeded to bend his fingers (at school, not after school). Mind you that my son is in kindergarten. It took my wife and I a while to get him to even admit it, because as he said, one of the bigger kids would get him.
I did two things: Since it was too late to call the school, we (my son and I) had a talk about defending himself. Taught him what to do in a roundabout way, so as to not give him the idea of going straight to the boy and hit him. So, at the end of this, I tell him that if someone does that to him again to tell the teacher - and if the boy doesn't stop, then do what I taught him to protect himself. And you know what he said? He said that couldn't do that because the teacher said anyone who hits would get in trouble.
The next day, I emailed and called the school. Of course no one would return call, but the teacher forwarded my email to the principal who emailed me back in return, saying "thank you" for bringing this to light and that they would be handling it. And guess what? The boy is still picking on him.
What I gather out of this is that the school isn't going to really do shite except keep my son from defending himself. By the way, I told him that if the boy does it again that he is to do whatever he needs to in order to make it stop. And he was adamant about the rules. Guess I can't blame him for following the rules.
I did two things: Since it was too late to call the school, we (my son and I) had a talk about defending himself. Taught him what to do in a roundabout way, so as to not give him the idea of going straight to the boy and hit him. So, at the end of this, I tell him that if someone does that to him again to tell the teacher - and if the boy doesn't stop, then do what I taught him to protect himself. And you know what he said? He said that couldn't do that because the teacher said anyone who hits would get in trouble.
The next day, I emailed and called the school. Of course no one would return call, but the teacher forwarded my email to the principal who emailed me back in return, saying "thank you" for bringing this to light and that they would be handling it. And guess what? The boy is still picking on him.
What I gather out of this is that the school isn't going to really do shite except keep my son from defending himself. By the way, I told him that if the boy does it again that he is to do whatever he needs to in order to make it stop. And he was adamant about the rules. Guess I can't blame him for following the rules.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:04 am to Spaceman Spiff
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What I gather out of this is that the school isn't going to really do shite except keep my son from defending himself.
The "zero tolerance" policy in schools only serves to teach kids that standing up for themselves is wrong. Period.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:06 am to Spaceman Spiff
Your rules>the schools. Make him understand that
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:06 am to Spaceman Spiff
Bring it to the school's attention again. Bullying is a big deal now. Tell them if it doesn't stop you're going to the school board
My son's school suspended a kid for repeatedly bullying him
My son's school suspended a kid for repeatedly bullying him
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:07 am to elprez00
Yea the whole "zero tolerance" movement is just idiotic.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:07 am to Spaceman Spiff
Pay an even bigger kid to beat the bully's arse. It's just how these things are done.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:07 am to More beer please
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Your rules>the schools. Make him understand that
I tried. He knows and understands what I was saying, but that boy is a little rule follower...
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:08 am to Spaceman Spiff
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He said that couldn't do that because the teacher said anyone who hits would get in trouble.
hasnt this always been a rule??? it has never stopped bullies from picking or kids from defending themselves before.
sounds like your kid is a weenie
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:08 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Guess I can't blame him for following the rules.
Yes, you can, and you should.
Make it clear to him that if he doesn't defend himself, then he is committing wrong just as much as the other boy is.
If the school is too timid to handle the other kid, then nobody should worry about what they will do to your son. There are a lot of bad things that can happen to kids at a young age, but in terms of institutional punishments, kids are pretty much untouchable, so there's really nothing to worry about in terms of your son "breaking the law" or anything.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:08 am to Paige
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Bring it to the school's attention again. Bullying is a big deal now. Tell them if it doesn't stop you're going to the school board
My son's school suspended a kid for repeatedly bullying him
Did that make the kid stop?
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:09 am to Paige
As much as I hate to game the system, Paige is 100% correct. Use the buzzword "bullying" a couple of times and shite will get done. Not because it is best for the kids but because some Administrator will see their job being put in danger.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:09 am to Spaceman Spiff
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but that boy is a little rule follower...
You shouldn't be so quick to laugh at that. It's an attitude that will cause big trouble for your kid if it isn't changed.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:10 am to Displaced
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sounds like your kid is a weenie
Not at all. He just doesn't like getting in trouble...although he will give his cousin what-for if he pisses him off.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:15 am to Spaceman Spiff
Yep
And don't teach your kid that it's ok to break rules and disrespect authority. Follow the proper channels. Don't email. Call them or go up there and let them know how upset and serious you are
And don't teach them that violence is the answer
And don't teach your kid that it's ok to break rules and disrespect authority. Follow the proper channels. Don't email. Call them or go up there and let them know how upset and serious you are
And don't teach them that violence is the answer
This post was edited on 9/15/14 at 7:18 am
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:15 am to Spaceman Spiff
The good thing is, nobody can really hurt each other that much at that age anyway. It's just a matter of attitude and principle. Boys wrestle, get aggressive, get broken up and separated, and then eventually things should die down.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:17 am to Spaceman Spiff
20 years ago both kids got in trouble too. This isn't news.
Posted on 9/15/14 at 7:20 am to TexasTiger1185
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20 years ago both kids got in trouble too. This isn't news.
not when I was in school
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