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Was last night a wasted 4 quarters of development for our young offense?

Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:43 am
-only 20 passes (18 for jennings and 2 for harris)

-i'd imagine the majority of our formations were only 1-2 WR formations

-lots of i-form, which is an out-dated formation that should primarily be used for short yardage situations only in modern football

-it didn't appear that we worked on any "speed up" style of play or any new/creative offense

our offense didn't improve over the game as much as just wore down ULM. this would occur regardless of what offense we ran

the question is if we wasted an entire game on things that we're having issues with, like

1. blocking scheme
2. short passes
3. hurry up offense
4. single back offense
5. zone-read plays
6. intermediate passing game
7. working in the TE

we have a young offense that needs reps doing the things we will have to do to win big SEC games

last night we didn't give them many reps in the very things they need to work on in order to improve
Posted by LsuTool
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Leadhead
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:44 am to
Fresh Topic; thanks
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:45 am to
Yes.
Posted by Kracka
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:45 am to
I hate rent a win games. Period. Nothing good comes from it for the paying team.
Posted by JermStone
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:46 am to
I think there was opportunity. I am not a believer in the super secret play book but I do think they are setting up state just a bit.why else would they run 2 tight end sets that much? I seriously think they will be passing out of those formations this week.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:46 am to
You'll be blasted, but I concur. We've got power I down. Passing game and Jennings in the pocket are still very questionable
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:47 am to
Yes!

Answers soon to follow will be...

We play vanilla so we don't show sec opponents the real offense.

Our offense works on the real offense in scrimmages

Posted by jwill37
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:48 am to
People will say we kept it vanilla on purpose but I hear that dumb shite every year. Next game they'll say we're waiting to open it up for Alabama. Just stupid. We tried a few plays and didn't execute then tucked it in. YES we needed the reps a d YES it was a waste of 4 quarters offensively. However our defense does looks outstanding. The defensive tackles are improving each week which was our only weak spot. I like this team but honestly I see our game plan last night as just what we'll see this year as a whole.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:49 am to
quote:

we have a young offense that needs reps doing the things we will have to do to win big SEC games


that's what practice if for...
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:51 am to
quote:

last night we didn't give them many reps in the very things they need to work on in order to improve


This. We attempted to practice short passing game early but had drops by Quinn, Diarse, Neighbors (dont get me started) then we totally quit trying. WR screens need to be a big part of our offense for the following reasons:

1. We have very talented WRs that can run after catch.
2. We have an avg at best QB that needs easy throws.
3. They are basically extended handoffs so they still wear out defenses like running plays.
4. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, It allows us to utilize our superior players.
Posted by Coach in Waiting
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:51 am to
quote:

-lots of i-form, which is an out-dated formation that should primarily be used for short yardage situations only in modern football -e

I guess the Saints, the Packers, the Seahawks, the Fourty Niners and all the other NFL teams that use a fullback should stop too.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:52 am to
We were too vanilla IMO, but to act as if these games are some sort of practice session is kinda lame. We have weeks and weeks of practice to, well, practice.

We don't do some things well, just like every team in America.

We have a young offense, and they are getting a ton of reps. In practice. And at the end of the year, we will still play like a young offense cause that is what we are......
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:52 am to
Oregon develops the frick out of their young talent. Seems to help when it counts
Posted by lob1284
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:55 am to
Yes you can look at it that way, but at least acknowledge that we pretty much do this once a season against one of the cupcakes where we run the same 6 plays the whole game. Doubt it's a coincidence it occurred before the SEC opener. I know your point is we can't afford to do it this year with so many young guys, we'll find out next week how valid that is.

They are definitely setting a few plays up. I can almost promise you next week when Hilliard is at fullback and LF is at RB in the I formation that they are going to fake the belly to Hilliard and flip it out to LF for a sweep.
Posted by Jaydeaux
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:56 am to
Yep you caught the staff once again. I'm all for Miles to MI and the rant coaches by committee
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:57 am to
We worked the heck out of the fullback belly.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 8:59 am to
Disagree a bit on the basis of what Les already knows (that they can execute the plays from other formations) and allowing their first SEC opponent to scheme on these formations.

We will indeed see a more diverse offense next weekend.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:02 am to
I think (a) the offensive plan was shut down after it became apparent that the o-line wasn't going to do any pass blocking and (b)it wasn't turned back on after we wore their defense down because Miles wants to be nice to instate schools.

We did work on some short/intermediate passes, and I think we looked ok, just a number of drops.
Posted by Birdie King
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2013
8065 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:03 am to
We are playing possum gonna release the hounds next week Buga slant Buga curl Squadron right Buga all fly on 2 readyyyy break

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