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re: OFFICIAL Week 2 NFL Bet Thread

Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:21 am to
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:21 am to
What about the Seahawks -5.5 at the Chargers? I know its betting against a home dog, but damn the Hawks looked good last week.
Posted by dcrews
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:38 am to
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ChemE in the OP


Your thoughts on NY Jets +9.5 at Green Bay? (up from +8)

Getting a little value early in the week and NYJ has the "defense/running game" gameplan that stifled Green Bay in Seattle.

Obviously it's a road game and they aren't exactly to the level of Seattle's defense, but perhaps the Jets can stay within 10 points (hoping the line bumps to +10).
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:42 am to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30163 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:42 am to
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What about the Seahawks -5.5 at the Chargers?


Don't bet road favorites. You'll save money in the long run that way.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:49 am to
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Did we learn nothing about road favorites last week?


So because road favorites didn't cover last week it means the Saints can't cover this week? Since when did this thread turn into square thinking only?? .

Some trends in the Saints favor:

Drew Brees is 27-15 ATS after a loss with the Saints (8-4 ATS as an underdog).
Saints are 7-3 ATS as favorites after losing as favorites.
Sean Payton is 8-3 ATS in his second-consecutive road game as a favorite.

The Saints could easily win this game going away. I backed Cleveland last week and won, but I don't have any respect for Pittsburgh's terrible defense that allowed that Cleveland backdoor.

The Saints had a Top 5 stop unit last year. They couldn't tackle last week vs. ATL (it was shocking and I'm calling it an anomaly). I suspect we see a big bounce back from them this week.

Cleveland's offense is nowhere close to Atlanta. The intangibles are on the Saints side because they know a loss to Cleveland likely puts them 2 games behind Seattle in the race for homefield advantage in the NFC.

Cleveland isn't good and the Saints are a SB contender. I wouldn't be too surprised if the sharps are back on the Saints this week as well when it's all said and done.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:45 am to
Yea, I definitely lean Jets and the points but probably won't play that game.
Posted by Tiger1242
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:47 am to
Anybody think there's value in Pitt +3 (buying 1/2 a point)? Seems like the Ravens might be a little distracted
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:50 am to
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Also 49ers -7 against the Bears


SF all the way. Chicago hasn't won in SF since 1985, and this year the Bears are terrible vs the run just like last year.

I'd be shocked if Chicago kept it within 2 TDs.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:56 am to
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Anybody think there's value in Pitt +3 (buying 1/2 a point)? Seems like the Ravens might be a little distracted


I think it's a smart play - seems like a FG game either way.

I wouldn't go too big bc the home team usually wins this rivalry game tho.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 10:57 am to
I'd have liked the 49ers better if the Bears would've won last week. They'll have urgency after dropping that home game to the Bills.

I'm torn on that one.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:02 am to
Early look at teams that fit my NFL method:

Ravens
Panthers
Giants
Vikings
Chargers
Raiders

Public hating these home squads. The way the Ravens and Giants looked week one has generated some value there as well.
Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:06 am to
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Anybody think there's value in Pitt +3 (buying 1/2 a point)? Seems like the Ravens might be a little distracted


A part of me says to take Baltimore. This is a rivalry game at home and at night. And with the whole Ray Rice deal, it could actually bring the team together and get the crowd even more charged up.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31897 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:08 am to
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Early look at teams that fit my NFL method:

What is your method?
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:12 am to
What I really like to play is home teams that lost the previous week and are getting less than 30% of public bets. Ravens, Chargers, Giants, Raiders, Browns all fit that. First bet of Week 2:

Sep 11 NFL
STRAIGHT BET
[102] BAL RAVENS -145

218 / 150

Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31897 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:13 am to
So you play those teams on the ML?

And why do you like to go against the public?
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:17 am to
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And why do you like to go against the public?


Because it is often a value play. Vegas wasn't built on the public consistently cashing tickets - it's as simple as that, really.

If the public is 70% - 80% on a side, some pros will automatically go the other way. I don't know what the metrics are exactly, but it is a good place to be.
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:18 am to
I bet sports like buying stocks usually. Buy teams when the public hates them cause you get extra value. My guess is the Chargers make Vegas a ton of cash this week. SEA looked really good Week 1.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31897 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:20 am to
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Because it is often a value play. Vegas wasn't built on the public consistently cashing tickets - it's as simple as that, really.

If the public is 70% - 80% on a side, some pros will automatically go the other way. I don't know what the metrics are exactly, but it is a good place to be.

Yea that makes sense, but if you are betting MLs than it doesn't really matter does it?
Posted by ChemE in the OP
The Flats
Member since Apr 2011
6382 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:24 am to
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Yea that makes sense, but if you are betting MLs than it doesn't really matter does it?


You're still going to get a better price.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31897 posts
Posted on 9/10/14 at 11:25 am to
Okay so you're looking for better odds more so than a safer bet, I get that
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