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re: Breaking: judge blocks enforcement of LA abortion law
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:11 am to onmymedicalgrind
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:11 am to onmymedicalgrind
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And can you remind us what difference does it make whether the performing doctor has admitting privileges in these cases of emergency?
Nah, I would rather you tell me why it wouldn't matter?
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Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:15 am to Zed
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Good. Deliberately limiting women's access to a legal medical procedure isn't an appropriate role for government.
Did you read the law?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:19 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Nah, I would rather you tell me why it wouldn't matter?
Sure. Because in cases of emergency like the ones you mentioned, the doctor having admitting privileges makes no difference. Apparently you took the bait, though.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:32 am to onmymedicalgrind
I'm curious, did the dr performing Joan rivers surgery have admitting privileges? Does anyone know?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:46 am to Ponchy Tiger
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All the political shite aside IMO it just makes good sense for the doctor performing the abortion to have admitting rights to a local hospital. This should have been the law from the get go.
No it doesn't. It's an arbitrary requirement designed to close clinics. If something goes seriously wrong in any outpatient medical procedure, you're going to the hospital no matter what.
It's transparently bullshite and has been seen as such by multiple courts.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:49 am to onmymedicalgrind
I thought the whole point was for the dr. Doing the procedure to have the full use of hospital equipment and staff if something were to go wrong.
It just seems like u are saying that the abortion dr can just drop the woman at the ER and say "woops i messed up please fix this person". Obviously they can do that but is that a good practice?
I think this was more about closing shady abortion clinics who were profiting off of abortions and at the same time giving their patients terrible care.
It just seems like u are saying that the abortion dr can just drop the woman at the ER and say "woops i messed up please fix this person". Obviously they can do that but is that a good practice?
I think this was more about closing shady abortion clinics who were profiting off of abortions and at the same time giving their patients terrible care.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:51 am to Layabout
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They're a lot safer than a coat hanger.
So you oppose all health and safety regulations based on the fact that an alternative is potentially worse?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:58 am to Revelator
quote:She would already be in a hospital if her life was in jeopardy and not at an abortion clinic.
And if the mother's life is really in jeopardy
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:00 am to dante
quote:I think that I heard he did not.
I'm curious, did the dr performing Joan rivers surgery have admitting privileges? Does anyone know?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:01 am to La Place Mike
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She would already be in a hospital if her life was in jeopardy and not at an abortion clinic.
She should be.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:21 am to onmymedicalgrind
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Not necessarily. Then again, many docs who perform outpatient procedures also don't have admitting privileges. But there is no legislation in the works for them. Makes you wonder what the true goal is here....
this is the pro life attempt to close all of the abortion clinics in Louisiana. They have to phrase things in a way to make it look like they are trying to regulate out patient procedure facilities. This is how the phrased the law. I wish I could say that the goal is to regulate these facilities, but I think the hidden agenda (which everyone knows) is to close the abortion clinics.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 10:22 am to La Place Mike
The woman who sponsored this bill realizes that abortion clinics target low income mostly black communities to set up shop. They provide substandard care while raking in lots of $ performing abortions.
This bill was as bipartisan as a bill could be nowadays. I guarantee a well to do woman would have no trouble finding a clinic that meets the standards set forth in the bill. I feel the black community is starting to realize the damage the abortion industry is causing them.
This bill was as bipartisan as a bill could be nowadays. I guarantee a well to do woman would have no trouble finding a clinic that meets the standards set forth in the bill. I feel the black community is starting to realize the damage the abortion industry is causing them.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:25 am to STEVED00
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I feel the black community is starting to realize the damage the abortion industry is causing them.
Well while I agree that abortion clinics are more conveniently located in minority neighborhoods, it doesn't excuse blacks from utilizing them and practicing irresponsible sexual behaviors.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:29 am to VOR
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So you disagree with giving physicians the opportunity to comply with this recently passed legislation?
How long does it take to comply and how recently was this passed?
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:41 am to FightinTigersDammit
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So you disagree with giving physicians the opportunity to comply with this recently passed legislation?
How long does it take to comply and how recently was this passed?
Think I read last night that Texas passed a similar law and some physicians were having to wait two years (in some cases)
Several States have this requirement and much of the laws more tightly regulating clinics followed on the heels of the Kermit Gosnell case in Philly.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:41 am to Revelator
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Posted by Revelator quote: I feel the black community is starting to realize the damage the abortion industry is causing them. Well while I agree that abortion clinics are more conveniently located in minority neighborhoods, it doesn't excuse blacks from utilizing them and practicing irresponsible sexual behaviors.
Not saying it does. Just pointing out that its not just "anti-abortion" legislation from Rs. It is also legislation a member of the black community trying to protect her constituents.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:45 am to Bestbank Tiger
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So you oppose all health and safety regulations based on the fact that an alternative is potentially worse?
Kind of interesting that many folks LOVE regulations until it hits their voting base. On the other hand, others who hate regulating business in many cases seem to dig this one.
After reading further, this regulation probably was following sound reasoning but isn't necessary.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
This has a lot to do with Gosnell and several other shady for profit abortion clinics operating in low income areas.
They went unchecked for yrs and many just treated their patients like animals. This law probably never happens if the abortion industry hadnt been so callous.
They went unchecked for yrs and many just treated their patients like animals. This law probably never happens if the abortion industry hadnt been so callous.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:52 am to STEVED00
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This has a lot to do with Gosnell and several other shady for profit abortion clinics operating in low income areas.
They went unchecked for yrs and many just treated their patients like animals. This law probably never happens if the abortion industry hadnt been so callous.
Absolutely. I think the reaction was well meaning but I don't think this regulation is absolutely necessary. But, if Abortion supporters want to keep it "safe and legal" they may want to police some of these places within the industry.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 11:55 am to Markie812
quote:yep, the small gov conservatives should be screaming that 500 laws were added the other day.
Louisiana should focus more on taking bad laws off the books than putting new ones in them.
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