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re: Genesis - Selling England by the Pound: great prog album, or
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:12 am to Hawkeye95
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:12 am to Hawkeye95
Thing is, Genesis were never a "jam band". Even in things like Watcher, Can-Utility, Moonlit Knight, Aisle of Plenty, Dancing on a Volcano, etc. there was hardly a dull moment.
If you don't like the shorter stuff I gave you, chances are good you won't like anything else.
If you don't like the shorter stuff I gave you, chances are good you won't like anything else.
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Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:13 am to Hawkeye95
These are about as radio-pleasing as Genesis got with Gabriel:
Counting out Time
I Know What I like (In Your Wardrobe)
Counting out Time
I Know What I like (In Your Wardrobe)
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:14 am to Starrkevious Ringo
Genesis was the anti-jam band. There was very little improvisation.
This post was edited on 8/29/14 at 10:15 am
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:18 am to Starrkevious Ringo
i think I just don't like prog.
Listening to counting out time. I started firth of filth but closed it.
Counting out time is better than other stuff I have heard, but meh.
Listening to counting out time. I started firth of filth but closed it.
Counting out time is better than other stuff I have heard, but meh.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:22 am to Hawkeye95
quote:I don't like really proggy prog...if that makes any sense
i think I just don't like prog.
There is a thin line between really good prog rock, and overindulgent garbage, and even the best prog bands teeter on the brink of that line for a lot of their stuff.
It's definitely a type of music that I could understand a lot of people not enjoying
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:25 am to danman6336
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It's definitely a type of music that I could understand a lot of people not enjoying
I love it (even the overindulgent garbage) but I fully agree with this statement.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:28 am to MountainTiger
Like all genres, there was plenty of dross mixed in with the diamonds.
Very general rule of thumb - if a prog band made only one or two albums, there was a reason for it. That said, even most of the greats have fair amounts of crap/lesser stuff in their repertoire.
Very general rule of thumb - if a prog band made only one or two albums, there was a reason for it. That said, even most of the greats have fair amounts of crap/lesser stuff in their repertoire.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:35 am to Starrkevious Ringo
my exposure to prog rock was limited to listening to king crimson or rush when high in college.
i liked neither. in fact, i cannot stand rush.
i liked neither. in fact, i cannot stand rush.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 10:38 am to Hawkeye95
I would consider Rush a hard-rock band who sort of flirted with a progressive veneer at one point, but I would never have called them "prog". That phase lasted for a few albums, then they took a considerable mainstream turn.
Haven't listened to KC in a long time but they were true giants.
Haven't listened to KC in a long time but they were true giants.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 11:08 am to Starrkevious Ringo
Agreed about Rush. Not what I'd call prog. King Crimson for sure were giants of prog rock.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:02 pm to MountainTiger
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Here's another one I just thought of. Phil Manzanera from Roxy had a side project for a while called 801. Members included Brian Eno, Bill MacCormick (from Quiet Sun), Francis Monkman (from Curved Air). The name comes from a lyric off of Eno's Taking Tiger Mountain by Strategy.
I like most of Phil Manzanera's music. His mid-2000's stuff like 6PM and and 50 Minutes later is good music. I think my favorite is Listen Now (801).
I got to see Brand X in San Francisco in 1979 with Phil Collins on drums. That band absolutely rocked...
On a somewhat related note, I saw the N'th generation of YES a few weeks ago in Houston. They played the entirety of Close to the Edge and Fragile. Starship Trooper and I've Seen All Good People were encores. Jon Davison does a credible job filling in for Jon Anderson. But the missing piece is really Rick Wakeman. When the solo parts came up for Roundabout, etc. Geoff Downes just doesn't cut it. I don't think I'll go see them again until/unless RW rejoins the band (which is not likely).
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:23 pm to bleeng
I gave up on Yes after Tormato. well, really after 90125 or whatever that one was.
On a postcard, have I missed anything?
On a postcard, have I missed anything?
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:36 pm to MountainTiger
quote:What's your favorite King Crimson album?
King Crimson for sure were giants of prog rock.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 12:55 pm to danman6336
How about favorite track from each KC incarnation?
I - Epitaph
II - Larks Tongues Part II/Starless
III - Thela Hun Ginjeet
I - Epitaph
II - Larks Tongues Part II/Starless
III - Thela Hun Ginjeet
Posted on 8/29/14 at 1:13 pm to Stonehog
love it.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 2:11 pm to danman6336
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What's your favorite King Crimson album?
Probably Discipline in the modern era. Lark's Tongue in Aspic or Starless and Bible Black for the 70's version.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 2:16 pm to bleeng
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I think my favorite is Listen Now (801).
Agreed, that's a great album. I have a few outtakes from that album that came on a PM compilation. Those songs are good too. His previous band Quiet Sun was pretty interesting.
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I got to see Brand X in San Francisco in 1979 with Phil Collins on drums. That band absolutely rocked...
Color me jealous as frick. I'd have given anything to see them back in those days.
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I don't think I'll go see them again until/unless RW rejoins the band (which is not likely).
I kinda feel the same way. I had tickets to see them in Denver a few weeks ago but unfortunately I wasn't able to go. But without Wakeman it would be a bit lame anyway.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 8:39 pm to Stonehog
Awesome album.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:05 pm to Spaulding Smails
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He also does some quality cocaine
I have my serious doubts that that even exist anymore.
Posted on 8/29/14 at 9:50 pm to Starrkevious Ringo
Not really-although Drama as a stand alone album was really good. A bit more straight ahead rock with some good songwriting-and did I say it rocked..Worth a listen if you gave up on Yes after the really crappy Tormato album.
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