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re: Why is Marijuana illegal?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:54 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:54 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Almost as bad as 'social conservative', right?
Social conservative says a lot more about a person's beliefs than age.
I used to be one myself.
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 5:58 pm to navy
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navy
Shut up
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It will grow anywhere and Uncle Sugar would not be able to regulate and make $$$$ off of it were it legal.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You can thank William Randolph Hearst, Andrew Mellon, and the DuPonts for it. Later it would be Nixon, whos disdain for anti-war protestors and hippies alike, put the final nail in the coffin in a legal sense with the Controlled Substances Act; all after he had been advised that it was mostly harmless and should be legalized. LSD met the same fate at this time as well.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Redbeard
Beat me to it.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 6:27 pm to navy
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Just don't cry if there are ramifications.
Who's crying about ramifications?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 7:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Why is Marijuana illegal?
You got me, bro
Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i got bama board access
Kill yourself.
Anyway, weed will be legal nationwide very soon. It has the endorsement of powerful people and there's no stopping it.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:41 pm to Tayday
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Message Posted by Tayday Bc you touch yourself at night.
LOL
Posted on 8/27/14 at 8:47 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Why is Marijuana illegal?
Money.
Money made off of probation, diversion classes, addiction classes, incarceration, etc. etc. etc.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:47 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I said follow the money trail earlier in thread.
I should have just said "lawyers".
I should have just said "lawyers".
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Nixon - and the army of conservatives marching lock-step behnd him, including Reagan.
ETA:
"You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists."
- R. M. Nixon
In an excruciating sequence from Sept. 9, 1971, Nixon is meeting with former Pennsylvania governor Raymond P. Shafer. Shafer heads a presidential commission on drug policy that Nixon has heard might be flirting with the notion of recommending the decriminalization of marijuana.
"You're enough of a pro," Nixon tells Shafer, "to know that for you to come out with something that would run counter to what the Congress feels and what the country feels, and what we're planning to do, would make your commission just look bad as hell."
Shafer begins to stammer. Nixon appears to be telling his commission, in advance, what to conclude.
If there is any doubt about this, Nixon erases it instantly. He instructs Shafer not to seek input from the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, which he seems to think is soft on drugs, apparently because it is filled with, you know, psychiatrists:
"As an old prosecutor, I don't mind somebody putting it in J. Edgar Hoover's hands, but I come down very hard on the side of putting it in, uh, hardheaded doctors, rather than a bunch of muddle-headed psychiatrists."
Shafer can barely get a word in edgewise.
"They're all muddle-headed," Nixon says. "You know what I mean?"
The governor's discomfort is palpable. You can almost hear him hooking a finger in his collar.
Nixon continues, making things perfectly clear: "But anyway, the thing to do now is to alert the country to the problem and say now, this far, no farther, and I think that's what you want to do, take a strong line."
Suddenly, people start getting up. The meeting is over. Before Shafer knows what hits him, the president is pushing him out the door, with a gift of golf balls and cuff links.
Eventually, Shafer's commission would recommend decriminalization. The Nixon White House was appalled, understandably: Nixon saw drugs as a threat to the vitals of the republic -- right up there, hand in hand, with the scourge of homosexuality.
ETA:
"You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists."
- R. M. Nixon
In an excruciating sequence from Sept. 9, 1971, Nixon is meeting with former Pennsylvania governor Raymond P. Shafer. Shafer heads a presidential commission on drug policy that Nixon has heard might be flirting with the notion of recommending the decriminalization of marijuana.
"You're enough of a pro," Nixon tells Shafer, "to know that for you to come out with something that would run counter to what the Congress feels and what the country feels, and what we're planning to do, would make your commission just look bad as hell."
Shafer begins to stammer. Nixon appears to be telling his commission, in advance, what to conclude.
If there is any doubt about this, Nixon erases it instantly. He instructs Shafer not to seek input from the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, which he seems to think is soft on drugs, apparently because it is filled with, you know, psychiatrists:
"As an old prosecutor, I don't mind somebody putting it in J. Edgar Hoover's hands, but I come down very hard on the side of putting it in, uh, hardheaded doctors, rather than a bunch of muddle-headed psychiatrists."
Shafer can barely get a word in edgewise.
"They're all muddle-headed," Nixon says. "You know what I mean?"
The governor's discomfort is palpable. You can almost hear him hooking a finger in his collar.
Nixon continues, making things perfectly clear: "But anyway, the thing to do now is to alert the country to the problem and say now, this far, no farther, and I think that's what you want to do, take a strong line."
Suddenly, people start getting up. The meeting is over. Before Shafer knows what hits him, the president is pushing him out the door, with a gift of golf balls and cuff links.
Eventually, Shafer's commission would recommend decriminalization. The Nixon White House was appalled, understandably: Nixon saw drugs as a threat to the vitals of the republic -- right up there, hand in hand, with the scourge of homosexuality.
This post was edited on 8/27/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
a better question is what sort of substances we can ingest that alter our state of being won't be made illegal within a year of discovery?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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better question is what sort of substances we can ingest that alter our state of being won't be made illegal within a year of discovery?
Probably the ones that took a few million to create
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
There was the study by Boeing (i believe) that experienced pilots failed flight simulations up to 48 hours after smoking marijuana. The study showed impairment up to 48 hours after smoking.
That's really the only concern I have with weed.
Would you be comfortable having open heart surgery monday morning after your surgeon smoked a bowl the night before?
That's really the only concern I have with weed.
Would you be comfortable having open heart surgery monday morning after your surgeon smoked a bowl the night before?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:05 pm to theenemy
i doubt most hospitals, emergency physician groups, or airlines will allow employees to smoke weed without repercussion
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i doubt most hospitals, emergency physician groups, or airlines will allow employees to smoke weed without repercussion
Maybe so, but thats the concern for me. How do you know if that professional smoked weed 1 day ago or 3 days ago.
Also, I'm of the opinion if you want to claim your a responsible adult and have the right to get high that's fine, but be a responsible adult in everything.
Before you spend money on weed, crack, meth, heroin, etc... pay your rent, buy your own groceries, pay for your own healthcare, pay your own cell phone bill.
And one day if you wake up and realize you are an addict then get yourself treatment and own up to your mistakes.
Do that and I'm all for the legalization of drugs.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:32 pm to theenemy
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Before you spend money on weed, crack, meth, heroin, etc... pay your rent, buy your own groceries, pay for your own healthcare, pay your own cell phone bill
This x 10000000
Get your fork off my plate and I could care less what anyone choses to do.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:53 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Harry Anslinger, William R. Hearst, and racism.
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