re: QB Play In 2014 - Better or Worse Than 2011?

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Worse early
Better late

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I agree, but that 2011 offense didn't exactly jump out of the gates if you remember the Oregon and Miss. St. games.

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JLee played almost spotless ball until the gump game

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Just go back and watch the games that year. Lee was uncomfortable in the pocket and had this little jump-throw that he'd pull out whenever he wasn't throwing off his back foot. There was a point against Oregon where it looked like he might not complete a forward pass. Had under an 8 yard avg/attempt vs. Miss. St. Basically a completed pass down-field was a prayer answered.

I'm just hanging my hat on Cam and the fact that both our QBs now are bigger recruits than JJ/Lee.

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People really sleep on how well Jefferson played that year. Outside of the Championship games, the guy was ridiculously efficient:


In his first 8 games that year:
64.29% completion
654 yards
9.34 yards/attempt
5 TDs
1 INT
163.48 Passer Rating

That's right. Lee was the "most efficient passer"* in the SEC prior to the championship games, except that Jefferson was even more efficient than Lee. Lee was called the "most efficient passer"* in the SEC prior to the championship games because Lee had enough starts to qualify, and Jefferson did not.

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Jarrett Lee led the SEC in efficiency

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After JL's 9 starts, LSU ranked 2nd in the SEC in passing eff. After the next 5 games, including 2 games vs. top 5 D's nationally, LSU ranked 2nd in the SEC in passing eff.

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Why the need to make his play as awful as JJs

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After JL's 9 starts, LSU was scoring 35.89 points a game and averaging 355.33 yds of offense a game. For the season and after finishing the yr playing 2 of the top D's in the nation, the LSU O ended up with a 35.71 scoring average and 355.07 total O average for the yr.

Why some feel the need to pretend like the LSU O shined under one QB and sucked under another, is really odd, but predictable, to me.

Not trying to rehash the JJ-JL argument. In 2011 special teams and defense either scored on set the offense up with beyond great field position, which accounts for many of the PPG numbers.

On the flip side, if your offense has 20 and 40 yard TD drives on the regular, it hurts their YPG average.

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Lee was extremely efficient until the GOTC

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He was definitely efficient, but could even be actually good this year.


Anyone who wanted to start or even play JL in the Championship needs to remember i threw 1 TD and 7 picks in 4 games against Alabama.

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In 2011 special teams and defense either scored on set the offense up with beyond great field position, which accounts for many of the PPG numbers.

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True, but you have to give credit to Lee for that 13-1 TD to INT ratio he put up the first 8 games.

Hopefully, just like then these young QB's won't be asked to win games by themselves, unless of course one or the other steps up and shows that capability.

The QB play for the first 8 games was very good in 2011. Very efficient TD/Int ratio and overall good stats.

I think by the end of this year, we are going to regret not holding onto the QB's we lost last year.

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The QB play for the first 8 games was very good in 2011. Very efficient TD/Int ratio and overall good stats.

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The QB play for the last 3 games of the regular season was even better. Even more efficient TD/Int ratio and even better stats.

But not only was it more efficient the last three games, it was far more productive. It's like the QB was driving a Ferrari instead of a Honda.

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Jarrett Lee led the SEC in efficiency and had the longest streak for a LSU qb without a pick. Why the need to make his play as awful as JJs play during that season is really odd to me.

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Oregon 10-22 (45.5%) 98 yards 1 TD
Kentucky 8-21 (38.1%) 169 yards 1 TD
Bama 3-7 (42.9%) 24 yards 2 ints

Don't get me wrong, he game managed like a SOB, but he had his bad games too. JJ had one against Bama, and one against UGA. They were also the #1 ranked and #3 ranked defenses in the country. The whole team as a whole, not just Jefferson, totaled like 30 yards the first have against UGA. The team outside of JJ against Bama in the NCG had 13 carries for 24 yards.

Let's compare JJ and Lee with similar games and same game stats.



Lee.........................................................................JJ
Kentucky - 8/21 (38.1%) 169 yards 1 TD....................4 rush 29 yards 1 TD
Florida - 7/10 (70%) 154 yards 1 TD....................3/4 (75%) 61 yards 1 TD
Tennessee - 13/17 (76.5%) 138 yards 3 TD....................1/3 (33.3%) 8 yards///14 rush 73 yards 1 TD
Auburn - 14/20 (70%) 165 yards 2 TDs....................2/3 (66.7%) 54 yards 1 TD
Bama - 3/7 (42.9%) 24 yards 2 ints....................6/10 (60%) 67 yards///11 rush 43 yards
#3Oregon -10-22 (45.5%) 98 yards 1 TD....................#3Arkansas - 18/29 (62.1%) 208 yards 1 TD 1 int///7 rush 53 yards 1 TD
Northwestern St - 9/10 (90%) 133 yards 1 TD....................Western Ky - 8/14 (57.1%) 168 yards 1 TD///5 rush 20 yards
MSU - 21/27 (77.8%) 213 yards 1 TD 1 int....................Ole Miss - 7/7 (100%) 88 yards 1 TD///6 rushes 26 yards.

So as you can see, they are pretty comparable.

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Did you watch the postseason in 2011 by any chance?

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Yep.

Did you watch Oregon, Kent., and 1st Bama game?

Look, JL managed the season till Bama pretty well. JJ managed the season pretty well till the 2nd Bama game. We didn't win any games just cause of our QB play and we didn't lose any games just cause of our QB play.

My only comment was in reference to this thought process some continue to push on us that one QB shined during in 2011 and one sucked. For the games each QBed in 2011 on the whole, that thought process is not a valid one. imo

As to the point of this thread, who knows what our QB play holds for us. That said, I think the play as QB will be better. We never had a QB win a game for us in 2011, but Jennings has already won a game for us going into this season.