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re: hearing the selection committee talk about criteria makes me 100% certain
Posted on 8/25/14 at 7:32 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 8/25/14 at 7:32 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Many of the "experts" in the media are nothing more than journalism majors that had an interest in sports so they went to work for ESPN. Rice is just as quailed as any of them. You don't have to be a former player to be able to study and learn the game.
The thing is she isn't even as qualified as they are.
I am sorry they have followed sports as a profession. Rice is a sidewalk Bama fan who is slightly distracted helping run a country, and doing whatever it is she does now. I assume count the money she makes consulting.
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:04 pm to thunderbird1100
Rewarding hot teams will cheapen the regular season, even with only 4 teams in the playoff. With the new trend of handing hiesmans to freshman we will see more teams in NCAA football like the Syracuse/Carmelo Anthony team in NCAA basketball. How many exciting final 4s have we seen recently? How many times have we been deprived of a competitive final game? If you play enough college football games you are going to lose one you shouldn't. There will be plenty of 4 team playoffs where the 4th team squeaks in, knocks off the 1 seed, setting us up for a lackluster final match up. There will be times where a 4 seed that would have no business playing for the national title gets in because we have to have 4 teams then strings together a two game win streak. This last one is as much a travesty as leaving out a debatable contender in the two team model.
I recognize the tournament model is more exciting for fans but it is not the best system for determining a champion. You see this clearly when baseball created the wildcard. You have a pretty good indicator of who the best teams are by the end of the season but a disproportionate amount of champions come from the wildcard. These systems simply reward the hottest teams. I don't like it but I am resigned to it. The only question for me is how long we have to wait for the 8 team playoff after the money rolls in.
I recognize the tournament model is more exciting for fans but it is not the best system for determining a champion. You see this clearly when baseball created the wildcard. You have a pretty good indicator of who the best teams are by the end of the season but a disproportionate amount of champions come from the wildcard. These systems simply reward the hottest teams. I don't like it but I am resigned to it. The only question for me is how long we have to wait for the 8 team playoff after the money rolls in.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:20 pm to Roaad
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Insinuated that hot teams at the end of season will get bump over teams with better overall seasons
Pretty sure the AP has been doing the same since before you were born. The only difference is someone will be able to prove it more. Hopefully it expands to eight teams and stays there.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:24 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I still don't know why we didn't just keep the BCS and put those four in.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:56 pm to FT
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I still don't know why we didn't just keep the BCS and put those four in.
You are totally 100% correct. LSU will take it in the you know where as time moves along.
As an old timer, most if not all of you are old enough to recall the many times through past years 60's/70's that LSU was $ck"'d due to the USC/ND/OU/TX/OS's of college football. At least the BCS had "one unbiased" value in the equation...though you could still argue the algorithm.
The first nail has been driven via the ALA SEC Network, in the future of NCAA football stage. The only question will be who the NE/MW/PC will chose to oppose ALA...and yes there will be exceptions, but this will be the rule.
Please someone tell me that this "zero talent P Finebaum" is just a filler until they can find someone else...is it salary affordability??
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:56 pm to SammyTiger
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I am sorry what other connection to football does she have? In what way is she qualified to judge football teams?
Zero..
friggin diversity bro.. Black woman who watches football sometimes? IN!
On topic.. .
BCS was bad because SOS was kinda factored in but polls (bias) could override that difference. And it only took 2 teams.
This system is basically saying that we trust this small amount of people over the average of 100+ AND a unbiased component.
but I don't understand why it's hard to develop a fully unbiased formula for picking the final teams
+3 for elite win
+2 for a GOOD win
+1 for a bad win
-1 for a "elite" loss
-2 for a "good" loss
-3 for a "bad" loss
+6 for conference championship.
elite win/elite loss = against a team who ends up in top 10 (adds human factor but keeps it minimal)
Good win/good loss = against a team who ends up with 8+ wins.
bad win/bad loss = against a team who ends up with <8 wins.
I think 8 teams.
non-BCS teams can still get in should they schedule good OOO games.
To avoid devaluation of the regular season and make it more difficult on non conference winners to win a championship, any final game that ends up being a "rematch" should reward the original winner in some way. I don't know how. Maybe play in their stadium.. or spot them the original win total (up to 7). something like that.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 8:57 pm to FT
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I still don't know why we didn't just keep the BCS and put those four in.
I would've preferred this. The BCS may not have been perfect, but got it right more often than not.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:00 pm to FT
College Baseball uses a selection committee. College Basketball uses a selection committee. Why use computer models to choose the biggest sport? Choosing a group of people who are assigned with studying the teams involved and assigned to watch the games is better than having computer models and polls of coaches/journalists who don't even watch the games.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:08 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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College Baseball uses a selection committee. College Basketball uses a selection committee. Why use computer models to choose the biggest sport? Choosing a group of people who are assigned with studying the teams involved and assigned to watch the games is better than having computer models and polls of coaches/journalists who don't even watch the games.
Do you understand the concept of sampling population? For instance, basketball selects 64 teams based on ""30"" games played over a season. This has quite an impact on the error quotient. In football sampling errors are magnified when easily influenced by the mere hint of bias when the "committee" selects.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:09 pm to Mickey Goldmill
College baseball and basketball both have enormous fields (compared to 4 teams) so the committee has a good chance of getting the best team in and then letting it play out. You can be biased all you want towards one team, but it isn't going to keep another equally worthy team out.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 9:14 pm to larry289
Obviously I understand the "margin for error" when selecting 4 teams is much smaller than for baseball and basketball. The premise and reasoning is the same though.
This small group of people are assigned with the job to study the games and the teams. They have all expressed respect with the level of importance of being on the selection committee. They will take the time to pick the best teams. They will spend more time the people doing the previous polls did, you can be assured of that.
This small group of people are assigned with the job to study the games and the teams. They have all expressed respect with the level of importance of being on the selection committee. They will take the time to pick the best teams. They will spend more time the people doing the previous polls did, you can be assured of that.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:05 pm to Roaad
Here's a fact:
There has been a playoff system. It's called the regular season and conference championship game.
Now the importance of that is squashed. It's all going to be fun and games till LSU gets matched up with An SEC opponent that LSU beat in the regular season.
There has been a playoff system. It's called the regular season and conference championship game.
Now the importance of that is squashed. It's all going to be fun and games till LSU gets matched up with An SEC opponent that LSU beat in the regular season.
Posted on 8/25/14 at 10:19 pm to baobabtiger
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Now the importance of that is squashed. It's all going to be fun and games till LSU gets matched up with An SEC opponent that LSU beat in the regular season.
That happened in the BCS already....
Posted on 8/26/14 at 12:57 am to Mickey Goldmill
I am not as confident as you are of this "committee" taking the time to pick the best teams. I hope this works because I love college football. We have already seen how the coaches poll at the end of the 2011 season affected the final poll and it would be a shame to see crap like that happen on a yearly basis.
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