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re: hearing the selection committee talk about criteria makes me 100% certain
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:38 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:38 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I firmly believe that you are going to have been a big 5 conference champion to be in the four team playoff .
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:50 pm to TheBuescherMan
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I think the only fair way to do it is have the five power conference champs get an auto-bid and then add 3 at-larges. The three at-larges would come from a BCS-like ranking system. The 1-4 seeds get to host the first round.
Now you're talking about a system that would be fair and exciting.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:06 pm to MontanaTiger
Look it's this simple. This committee will RUIN college football book it. ESPN manipulated a computer system to get Alabama in in 2011. You don't think ESPN will manipulate a committee. Come on be serious. Like said before if they wanted to keep it fair use the BCS rankings to pick the top 4. They didn't so they could manipulate the top 4. Be honest to yourself this is the end of college football as we know and love it.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:06 pm to MontanaTiger
Look it's this simple. This committee will RUIN college football book it. ESPN manipulated a computer system to get Alabama in in 2011. You don't think ESPN will manipulate a committee. Come on be serious. Like said before if they wanted to keep it fair use the BCS rankings to pick the top 4. They didn't so they could manipulate the top 4. Be honest to yourself this is the end of college football as we know and love it.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:20 pm to Roaad
near homers, Homers ,near homers manipulated by sure enough homers equeals selection committee !
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:34 pm to Roaad
It sounds lame now, maybe, but let's think about where we would be earlier if we had this.
2005? Doubt it matters (USC or Texas was winning the title that year) but we would be in contention since our two losses that year had the specter of Katrina hovering over them. Not saying we get picked, but if there were ever such a thing as "extenuating circumstances"...
2006? USC's late loss to UCLA and our hot streak at the end of the year probably get us in.
2007? Even if we say they pick Georgia, USC and Ohio State due to being hot/only a 1-loss team, we're still in over VA Tech and OU, if you ask me. In fact we're probably even safer because you know the committee would want to pick Georgia and you know they wouldn't feel like they could get away with picking Georgia and not LSU.
2008-10? Never were in the race.
2011? We don't face Alabama first and... ehh probably the outcome doesn't change, but maybe they get knocked out before they get to the championship? 2011 "cheapened the regular season" as it was so it'd still be an improvement.
2012-13? Weren't in the race.
Seems to me like LSU, based on recent history, would be a beneficiery of this rather than hurt by it.
2005? Doubt it matters (USC or Texas was winning the title that year) but we would be in contention since our two losses that year had the specter of Katrina hovering over them. Not saying we get picked, but if there were ever such a thing as "extenuating circumstances"...
2006? USC's late loss to UCLA and our hot streak at the end of the year probably get us in.
2007? Even if we say they pick Georgia, USC and Ohio State due to being hot/only a 1-loss team, we're still in over VA Tech and OU, if you ask me. In fact we're probably even safer because you know the committee would want to pick Georgia and you know they wouldn't feel like they could get away with picking Georgia and not LSU.
2008-10? Never were in the race.
2011? We don't face Alabama first and... ehh probably the outcome doesn't change, but maybe they get knocked out before they get to the championship? 2011 "cheapened the regular season" as it was so it'd still be an improvement.
2012-13? Weren't in the race.
Seems to me like LSU, based on recent history, would be a beneficiery of this rather than hurt by it.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 2:37 pm to Roaad
I've said from this things inception it's going to be a shite show. One person says "conference champs weighs heavily on the decision" then someone else comes out and says "doesn't matter about conference champs, best four team". I assure you this season is going to end up a clusterfrick with the committee, unless there is a clear defined top 4
Posted on 8/24/14 at 3:28 pm to LSU GrandDad
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this new system will generate at least as much controversy as the BCS system did.
Right on
Posted on 8/24/14 at 3:36 pm to slidellmike
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I firmly believe that you are going to have been a big 5 conference champion to be in the four team playoff .
Not necessarily. Last year Alabama didn't even play for the SEC championship but they got a better bowl than Mizzou there they got their butts reamed and handed to them.
This is one of my biggest fears. These "hot" teams or "traditional powerhouses" that don't even play for a conference championship will likely get in over a "weak" conference champion and in the process jump their conference champion loser.
As was stated above, take the five conference champions and the next three highest ranked teams for an 8 team playoff. This is much better.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 3:38 pm to Roaad
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Insinuated that hot teams at the end of season will get bump over teams with better overall seasons
Good. Teams loading up on cupcakes deserve to be penalized.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 4:41 pm to ForeLSU
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I wonder how they'll handle a team losing to a key rival in November with a trip to the conference championship on the line?
exactly what I immediately thought
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:07 pm to La Place Mike
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The playoff system was developed too keep SEC teams out.
This x 1000. Even if the SEC has the 4 best teams in the country, its going to be Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12 SEC. It worked for baseball.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:11 pm to Roaad
Heard on the radio yesterday that they would "take into account" weather and field conditions when comparing one teams losses to another and I don't like that at all. The selection committee is going to be a clusterfrick until they set some sort of baseline for criteria. That's going to take some trial and error so it's not going to be pretty for the first 4-5 years IMO.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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What's stupid is comments like this. She is not on the committee because she is from alabama, suggesting as such is ignorant.
I am sorry what other connection to football does she have? In what way is she qualified to judge football teams?
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:17 pm to Mattwells90
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hearing the selection committee talk about criteria makes me 100% certain
That unless a crazy chain of events happen the SEC will never get 2 teams in the playoff. This will turn out to be a politically correct type thing. The committee will find a reason to give the upper hand to other conferences.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Agreed.
It matters who you play. Football is a game of attrition. Playing 1 tough game per year doesn't mean you get in.
The committee needs to send a strong message by passing on some of the silly teams that get to an undefeated record by "managing" their schedule.
Reward power teams like Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ohio State, USC etc into playing each other early in the year and by putting teams like Louisville, Central Florida etc. on their out of conference schedules. Central Florida winning their conference shouldn't equal a top 4 spot if all the big boys beat the hell out of each other.... Strength of schedule should be the main factor and I think it will be
It matters who you play. Football is a game of attrition. Playing 1 tough game per year doesn't mean you get in.
The committee needs to send a strong message by passing on some of the silly teams that get to an undefeated record by "managing" their schedule.
Reward power teams like Bama, LSU, Auburn, Ohio State, USC etc into playing each other early in the year and by putting teams like Louisville, Central Florida etc. on their out of conference schedules. Central Florida winning their conference shouldn't equal a top 4 spot if all the big boys beat the hell out of each other.... Strength of schedule should be the main factor and I think it will be
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:23 pm to Tigers'Mojo
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This fictional scenario that never occured is complete bullshite...sounds pretty dumb.
No, it is kinda warranted. The BCS basically was flawless in awarding a champion, and now we have a system that is headed up by a committee that will consider factors other than just team performance. Basically, as long as they can explain their way out of it, they can do it. Gonna be a shitshow, hypothetically.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:23 pm to Marlin2114
This would have been a much better system if it didn't fall squarely onto the selection committee because bias becomes too big a part of it.
There should have been a BCS-esque ranking system that determined the top 10 teams and the selection committee take over from there WITH certain baseline requirements for making the playoff.
There should have been a BCS-esque ranking system that determined the top 10 teams and the selection committee take over from there WITH certain baseline requirements for making the playoff.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:25 pm to RB10
quote:Its almost like they need a blend of human opinion and some kind of computerized system, that would probably even things out quite a bit.
The selection committee is going to be a clusterfrick until they set some sort of baseline for criteria. That's going to take some trial and error so it's not going to be pretty for the first 4-5 years IMO.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 5:26 pm to RB10
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There should have been a BCS-esque ranking system that determined the top 10 team
So replace the system we are replacing with the system we replaced.
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