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re: Who has the most realistic chance to be the next Republican President?

Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68531 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:39 pm to
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Rand Paul goes toe-to-toe with anybody

Doesn't he want to abolish all forms of contraceptives and abortion? That alone wouldn't get him elected.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22406 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:48 pm to
Whoever it is they are going to have one hell of a mess to clean up.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12026 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 6:53 pm to
Absolutely right!
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 3:03 pm to
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What are Walkers successes? He is so far from his 250k jobs promise that it is scary. His inability to hire good staff is frightening.



Plus there being a 50/50 shot he's unemployed in 3 months.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 3:30 pm to
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What are Walkers successes? He is so far from his 250k jobs promise that it is scary. His inability to hire good staff is frightening.



Plus there being a 50/50 shot he's unemployed in 3 months.




I have made this point repeatedly for months now. Burke is by far a tougher opponent than Tom Barrett ever was. The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel continues (see yesterday's edition linked below) to pound Walker on those dubious charges and the RCP average as of today is Walker 47.0, Burke 46.7.

I'm actually very pro-Walker, but I'm also a realist who isn't looking past November 4th.

LINK

Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 3:36 pm to
Unless the republicans put in a true conservative, they won't win. Not only that.. every election period that passes makes it harder and harder. Republicans are losing voters on a national election.

To the ones saying Christians did not vote for Romney due to him being mormon, not so true. They did not vote for Romney because he stood a form of the ACA in his state. He is and was a larger Gov guy.

IF the republicans stand a chance...they had better put up a conservative. Paul will not attract the much needed block. Christie will not.

This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58085 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 4:09 pm to
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To the ones saying Christians did not vote for Romney due to him being mormon, not so true. They did not vote for Romney because he stood a form of the ACA in his state. He is and was a larger Gov guy.



This is why I couldn't vote for Romney and it had nothing to do with his Mormon faith. I didn't view him as a true conservative. But with hindsight, he was still head and shoulders better than Obama. Since La. carried Romney, my vote would have been irrelevant anyway.
Posted by KCTigerFan212
Kansas City
Member since May 2014
243 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 4:50 pm to
Rand Paul is my favorite Republican, but right now, it's Mitt Romney's to lose if he decides to run again.

I'm not huge fan of Romney, but he can run the one of the biggest "I told you so" campaigns ever. He's an establishment type without the last name "Bush."

As much as I really like Rand Paul, I don't see how he gets out of the GOP primary. The strong hawks of the party and even the Christian conservative types who don't like Rand for his moderate leanings on the Drug War won't let it happen.

I actually think Rand has a stronger chance at beating Hillary than he does getting out of the GOP primary. He's the only guy who works hard at expanding the conservative movement to the black and Hispanic communities.
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123961 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 4:56 pm to
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Doesn't he want to abolish all forms of contraceptives and abortion?
No.

Wow, just wow!
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1886 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 5:16 pm to
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had Romney been a Christian instead of a Morman


Mormons are Christians.
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 6:48 pm to
I know plenty of Waukesha republicans that would never support Walker on a national stage.

Walker would get killed in a national forum and would get housed by any dem. his 250k job promise would get hammered like "no new taxes."

Love to see his whole Marquette thing played out again for the people.

I'm on the opposite side politically, but I can admire a well run campaign and gov. He has neither. Fiscal problems at the WEDC for example. Or attacking Trek, a company his own WEDC pimped as an example of why to do biz in the state.

Dems/libs could work with and respect TT and Dreyfuss. Walker is a divider.

What is funny is that those who deride Obama and others as career pols love Walker. A guy who has basically been in gov since leaving Marquette.

Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 6:53 pm to
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IF the republicans stand a chance...they had better put up a conservative. Paul will not attract the much needed block. Christie will not.

Do you think the Republicans can win without increasing its share of the Black, Hispanic, Asian and Jewish vote?
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 6:59 pm to
Honestly, the three people who scare me the most as a Dem would never make it out of the Republican primary- Rubio (if immigration reform had gone through he could have destabalized the Obama coalition and chipped off some Hispanic voters, as it is now, the GOP has essentially cosigned itself to demographic irrelevance by 2024 or so when states like Texas and Arizona become Blue states) ; Christie (actually really conservative on Social issues-- he's pro-life for example but will never get the nuts to believe that); Rand Paul (assuming he is able to get away with his current dance of being socially libertarian when pitching to young voters and socially conservative when pitching evangelicals-- if he gets pinned down and the primaries would do that he'll have to sacrifice one of the two constituencies).
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 7:08 pm to
I don't know but I hope it's Rand Paul.
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
3320 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 8:41 pm to
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Rand Paul is my favorite Republican, but right now, it's Mitt Romney's to lose if he decides to run again.

I'm not huge fan of Romney, but he can run the one of the biggest "I told you so" campaigns ever. He's an establishment type without the last name "Bush."


I just find the whole idea depressing. He lost. He needs to move on. I'd take Jeb Bush or Paul Ryan over Mitt Romney.

My preference by the way is Perry/Martinez.
This post was edited on 8/23/14 at 8:42 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 8:46 pm to
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I just find the whole idea depressing.
it really is


And people trolling saying Obama would nominate Holder to the SCOTUS just scares the shite out of me even though it's an obvious troll
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
20903 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 9:01 pm to
I would vote for Romney. I could also see myself voting for Perry.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 9:09 pm to
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The born again Christians will vote for him this time?


Voted for him last time. Would vote for him again.

Change your meme. It is getting old.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:08 pm to
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Doesn't he want to abolish all forms of contraceptives and abortion? That alone wouldn't get him elected.


Lol no. Where did you get this from?

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 8/23/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Doesn't he want to abolish all forms of contraceptives and abortion? That alone wouldn't get him elected.
where do people read this stuff?
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