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re: My new truck

Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 8:59 pm to


The 6.4 power joke is the worst engine ever built, eclipsing the shitty 6.0 it replaced.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:19 pm to
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Why don't you see GM and Dodge guys complaining about blown up engines left and right?


They do. Bad injectors, cracked engine blocks, failed pumps, all issues the GM and Dodge guys have and they do indeed complain. Navistar International knows how to build diesel engines, they made the 7.3L, the 6.0, and the 6.4 and those same engines saw fleet use in buses and tow trucks. Vast majority of the issues came form owners who didn't follow maintenance procedures, added aftermarket tunes, and technicians who tried throwing parts at the problem instead of proper diagnosis.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:22 pm to
You seriously need to lay off the bag of dicks you are working on. Becoming an obsession for you child. Please tell me Dodge CTD's didn't have issues with cracked blocks and bad pumps. Do it.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:29 pm to
I know fleet managers at mines that have plenty of them without issue. Given their guys are trained to work on CATs and Cummins engines that are the size of light duty trucks might be something too. Simply switching over to a heavy duty ELC and running a filter cures a lot of issues with the 6.0 and 6.4 (and CTD's for that matter). I use the stuff in both my gasser trucks after having the OEM stuff eat up plastic and rubber parts and I'd rather not have to go back to the green stuff and flushing it every few years.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:46 pm to
If cummins had any smoking gun issues, it was turbo cam plates sticking up and EGR issues.

I have NEVER heard of cummins block issues with any cummins engine.
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:06 pm to
Have you ever looked? It had to do with thermal expansion and a thin part of the block would crack and leak coolant. As with other diesel problems (the ever common EGR for example), neglecting the coolant exacerbates the issue. Lock N Stitch Company makes a kit just for them. Just because YOU never heard of the problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist btw.

Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:22 pm to
All gauges work. Since the shocks are in such bad shape, driving from Houston to New Orleans and around New Orleans shook something loose on the front end. I can also hear the driver's rear shock just flopping around.

Ordered 4 new Bilsteins at 4pm and should be here in 4-6 days. Am also gonna jack it up first thing in the morning and take a look at all of the steering/suspension stuff



Eta: It does seem to have a slight lifter tick along with the exhaust manifold leak. I just ordered some Auto-rx, and hopefully it will go away without me have to take it apart and adjust them. My guess is that shitty oil was used and since it was just a city truck, it didn't get to operating temperature as much as it should have.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 10:42 pm
Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 10:35 pm to
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You seriously need to lay off the bag of dicks you are working on. Becoming an obsession for you child. Please tell me Dodge CTD's didn't have issues with cracked blocks and bad pumps. Do it.




Just as I expected. I'll be honest, I don't know...I'm not a mechanic and have never claimed to be...but you can't honestly sit here and try to argue that Dodge and GM diesels are more, or just as, problematic as Ford diesels.

I'm sure you'll just tap dance around that, call me a dumbass or some other lame comeback, drop a bunch of useless jargon, and then try to convince everyone that Ford diesels were given to us by the right hand of God himself and it's purely the consumers fault they grenade left and right.

All of that being said, from what little I do know of the CTD, I have never seen cracked blocks as being an issue. Not saying it's never happened, but I'm sure there have been far far fewer cracked CTD blocks vs. blown up 6.0's and 6.4's.

And just FYI, you wouldn't be a terrible poster or as annoying if you didn't have to resort to lame, immature name calling everytime someone bad mouths Ford or disagrees with your opinion.

ETA: This is what diesel power mag had to say about cracked Cummins blocks...seemed pretty limited and occurred after years of use. An issue? Sure. But hardly as bad as building two complete shite motors for a time span of 7 to 8 years.
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The second potentially deadly flaw occurs in '99 to '02 5.9L Cummins 24-valve engines. It's known as the 53 block problem, because these engine blocks have the number 53 cast into the side of the crankcase. After years of use, the 53 blocks tend to crack until coolant starts to pour out the side of the block. This is an issue that many people kid themselves about. While it's something you can live with for a while, eventually the leak will get so severe that you'll be refilling your cooling system on your commute to work. Sooner or later, the truck will need a new engine if it's not repaired.
This post was edited on 8/17/14 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Clames
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Posted on 8/17/14 at 11:19 pm to
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I'm not a mechanic and have never claimed to be...but you can't honestly sit here and try to argue that Dodge and GM diesels are more, or just as, problematic as Ford diesels.


I've never made that argument but I also won't pretend they are without fault. You're only a dumbass because you setup strawmen for your arguments. I expect technical ignorance though.

As for the CTD issue it wasn't limited to the 53 blocks or the 55 blocks. The issue could happen much sooner in trucks in colder climates so no it wasn't just after years of use either. You wouldnt be such a lousy poster if you took more time than a shallow Google search to educate yourself on these issues. If you paid more attention you'd figure out I give credit where it is due but I don't suffer ignorance when someone, like yourself, bad mouths something out of an obvious lack of understanding. Relying on rags like DPM is like trying to build a serious True 10.5 car by reading a stack of 5.0 or CHP magazines.
Posted by Dylan
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 12:40 am to
Accidental down vote hammertime. I agree ford trucks are trash outside of the 7.3s and a few others.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:32 am to
I think I'm qualified to say you are overplaying that issue a wholeeeeeeee lot. If anybody is building a straw man argument it's you. 5.9 cummins faults don't belong in the same conversation as power stroke faults.

Anywho, hammer's new rig is probably going to prove more reliable than any of them if he keeps his hot roddding hands out of it.
Posted by greasemonkey
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 5:50 am to
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Eta: It does seem to have a slight lifter tick 


add half a can of seafoam to the crankcase.
Drive it for at least a couple hundred miles and change the oil with 5w30.
Good news is I've never heard of a lifter failing on a 6.0
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:12 am to
Me either.

I tried the sea foam trick on my old 350 and it fixed it immediately. Like 1 mile down the road and it was gone.
Posted by greasemonkey
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:49 am to
I do the sea foam about every 4th old change. I have a 97 Tahoe with almost 300,000 miles on it.
My dad has a 02 GMC 5.3 with 300,000 on it too.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:50 am to


That's pretty ridiculous. Hopefully I get that outta mine. It's got an easy life now.

Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:52 am to
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Hopefully I get that outta mine. It's got an easy life now.


now that you are living New Money Life you don't have to worry about such financial decisions

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 6:55 am to
Pshhhh

I hope I never have to buy another truck. That's kinda unrealistic, but I'd absolutely love to be able to wait about 10 years before I get another one.
Posted by aVatiger
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:05 am to
i am averaging about 8 years per truck, never trade in and always run each one into the ground..

it has paid huge dividends.. especially since I have a lifetime power train warranty on my Dodge
Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:29 am to
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You wouldnt be such a lousy poster if you took more time than a shallow Google search to educate yourself on these issues. If you paid more attention you'd figure out I give credit where it is due but I don't suffer ignorance when someone, like yourself, bad mouths something out of an obvious lack of understanding.


Well instead of being arrogant and berating me, why don't you drop some of the knowledge you claim to have and educate? I'm sure others here would be interested if you could provide something worth reading. As downshift said though, I think you're vastly overplaying the cracked block issue. I may not know everything about the mechanics of a diesel motor, but I've been around 4 or 5 different Dodge/Ram forums for 7 years now and don't recall ever seeing a post about a cracked CTD block.

How am I badmouthing out of a lack of understanding? It doesn't take much to understand that the 6.4 is not a good motor and the 6.0 is only a good motor if you throw money at it to bulletproof it or maintain it like a commercial airliner.

Anyway, I'm not hijacking this thread anymore...it's annoying to others and not worth the time.
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:37 am
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 7:29 am to
I'm about to get all of my shite ready for working on it today. I have an old floor jack that I was supposed to put new seals in a year ago sitting in my extra building......so it looks like I'll be buying a new floor jack today That is one of those "I'll get to it" projects.

Have some seafoam spray(ready for a smoke show), gonna pick up some 3M max fuel system cleaner, take the throttle body off, and I have a can of MAF cleaner that needs to be used also. I'm gonna try and find an Amsoil dealer for some severe gear 75/90 and ATF, and I am definitely want to get an oil bypass system from them when I get the money.

Shocks should be here Friday and Auto-rx around the same time. I might make a separate truck maintenance thread if I feel like taking all of those pictures


Eta: If yall have anything extra you want me to do, post it and I'll give it a whirl with the camera ready
This post was edited on 8/18/14 at 7:44 am
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