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re: Help the Kurds establish a new sovereign Kurdish nation-state.

Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:55 pm to
JOE BIDEN WAS 100% RIGHT ABOUT A 3 STATE SOLUTION!!!

Let the record show. Everyone can make fun but even a broken clock is right 2 times a day.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36419 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 1:56 pm to
They absolutely deserve their own state. The Turks can frick off.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:03 pm to
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On the surface, yes, it appears to be non-interventionist.


On the surface??

We have 300 "advisors" there and are bombing. Further we imperialistically fired our hand picked Iraqi premier and had him replaced.

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Anyway, the Kurds want our help and propping them up will help the fight against ISIS. And a base there would help. The SOF should be discussed again.


Like I said more world police...it has worked out so well in the past.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32890 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:15 pm to
It has worked out well in the past.

And you think he really wanted to send the 300 or bomb?
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:32 pm to
3 states, Kurds in the North in the ISIS territory. The Sunni in the Center and West. Shia in the South. We get out in general, except a helicopter base in Kurdistan and an American oil company operation like Chevron again.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:39 pm to
Put a base in Kurdistan. They want it and it'll help keep crap like this from flaring up.

This may be coming. Our Nato allies Turkey no longer oppose a separate state as a oil pipeline to the Turkish port Ceyhan is in the planning stages and would be a huge multi billion dollar boom to Turkey.

Three state solution may be only way out of this mess.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 2:40 pm to
No reason not to help the Kurds
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Help the Kurds establish a new sovereign Kurdish nation-state.


Only if they call it St George.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 4:04 pm to
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Like I said more world police...it has worked out so well in the past





I'd say it has worked out well considering we haven't had to fight another world war
Posted by MaroonWhite
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Member since Oct 2012
3693 posts
Posted on 8/17/14 at 9:03 pm to
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C) Turkey, once so opposed to the idea that the US couldn't support an independent Kurdistan, now kinda wants it. This is mainly due to the potential oil exports Kurdistan can have. Now, with the majors (XOM and Chevron for example) having left, it does question the full output the Kurdistan could have in the coming years. It would be better for Turkey in the long run to have the Kurds be independent (not their Kurds obliviously) for the exports


I agree, and I think that secular Turkey would also like to have the Kurds as a geographical buffer against militant Islamists like ISIS.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48376 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 8:57 am to
If Turkey is now willing to tolerate an independent Kurdish state, then, the Three State Solution has even more merit.

It is a last resort solution, but, events seem to be forcing that decision.

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