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Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:51 pm to Louie T
Will Pedro get a higher % for his HOF ballot than Greg Maddux got?
Greg got 97.2%
Pedro is eligible next year.
Greg got 97.2%
Pedro is eligible next year.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:52 pm to Patton
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Will Pedro get a higher % for his HOF ballot than Greg Maddux got?
No
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:53 pm to Louie T
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Pedro Martinez's 2000 season is likely the best pitching year of all time.
C'mon Old Hoss Radbourn went 59-12 and 2 saves with 1.38 ERA, 441 K's and 73 complete games in '84.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:53 pm to rlebl39
Just like rlebl39 said....
For a career, it's Ryan, and its not even close.
For a "best season" or "peak years", Pedro.
Also, Pedro had the advantage of playing for WAAAY better teams and benefitted from a lot of run support (not that he needed it when he was rolling).
Ryan was on some bad Angels teams, mostly bad Astros teams, and really bad Rangers teams in his career.
For a career, it's Ryan, and its not even close.
For a "best season" or "peak years", Pedro.
Also, Pedro had the advantage of playing for WAAAY better teams and benefitted from a lot of run support (not that he needed it when he was rolling).
Ryan was on some bad Angels teams, mostly bad Astros teams, and really bad Rangers teams in his career.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:53 pm to Patton
absolutely Pedro IMO
Ease off Texans, I know Nolan is a hero and beat up a dirty Mexican who charged the mound
Ease off Texans, I know Nolan is a hero and beat up a dirty Mexican who charged the mound
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:55 pm to Patton
I doubt that.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:57 pm to LasVegasTiger
Corn Tuckner had the best season ever in 1893.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 2:59 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Pedro also pitched during the peak of steroid abuse. In the best division in baseball w/ a DH, and a hitter friendly home field.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:01 pm to LasVegasTiger
Pedro had ERA+ of 243 and 291 in back-to-back seasons. He had a stretch of 219, 163, 243, 291, 188, 202, & 211.
There are only 37 seasons of 200+ ERA+. 18 of those 37 seasons came in the dead-ball era before 1919.
Pedro pulled 5 of those 19 200+ seasons after the dead-ball era in a 7 season stretch.
There are only 37 seasons of 200+ ERA+. 18 of those 37 seasons came in the dead-ball era before 1919.
Pedro pulled 5 of those 19 200+ seasons after the dead-ball era in a 7 season stretch.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:04 pm to Louie T
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Pedro Martinez's 2000 season is likely the best pitching year of all time.
His 1997 year with Montreal was right there with it.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:06 pm to Colonel Angus
Nolan
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:09 pm to Louie T
I would probably take his '99 season. A .100 BABIP difference is the only reason his 2000 ERA is an inch lower.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:17 pm to Louie T
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Ryan's career counting # are better than Pedro's due to longevity, but they're in two different stratospheres when looking at ratio #s within individual seasons.
Not talking career or individual seasons. Talking one game situation where both are at their best. It is a coin flip then. They were both unhittable at their best.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:18 pm to Patton
People from the Great State of Texas is going to say Nolan Ryan
People outside of the Great State of Teaxs will say the Pedro Martinez
People outside of the Great State of Teaxs will say the Pedro Martinez
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:21 pm to RedHawk
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Talking one game situation where both are at their best.
Then Pedro without a doubt.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:23 pm to Louie T
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Pedro had ERA+ of 243 and 291 in back-to-back seasons. He had a stretch of 219, 163, 243, 291, 188, 202, & 211.
Pedro's 7 year stretch from 1997 to 2003, he had an ERA+ of 213.
Ryan never had a single season close to an ERA+ of 213 and only 1 of his 27 years was within 70 points of that average
Hell, Pedro had a career ERA+ of 154. Nolan only had one season with a better number than that
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:29 pm to RedHawk
Josh Tomlin had a complete game 1 hit shutout with 11K this year. That doesn't mean he's not significantly less likely to do it again.
Pedro was a lot more likely to be dominant than Ryan was
Pedro was a lot more likely to be dominant than Ryan was
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:30 pm to Patton
Pedro and it's not even close
Posted on 8/13/14 at 3:31 pm to rlebl39
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I'd take the one with the most all time strikeouts
I would take the better strikeout pitcher
Strikeouts Per 9 innings Career Average
Nolan: 9.5
Pedro: 10.0
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 8:22 pm
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