re: The Shooting of Michael Brown: Focus on the Police State; NOT racism

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To sit there and blame drugs for the degradation of cities, when there is just as much drug use in affluent neighborhoods that aren't degrading, is a fallacy. That's not the reason.

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I don't believe for a second that there is just as much drug use in neighborhoods where the residents are accountants, doctors, financial advisers, dentists, etc. compared to crime-ridden areas.

I know it happens. But I don't believe for a second it's as prevalent.

Can anybody support that claim?

There's a good documentary on this that came out last year called Wolf of Wall Street. Check it out

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OP is wrong.

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you obviously don't know me

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I think the difference is those in more affluent areas, and even in middle class areas, have the means to get themselves or their family members into treatment programs when they recognize there is a problem. I was pretty into drugs(not an addict, but liked to have fun) in my 20's and did them with folks from all walks of life. Most of the drug activity in poverty-stricken areas is distribution from what I saw. Sure, there is a lot of use as well, but it didn't seem more prevalent than in the suburbs where I was partaking. They lack education to get good jobs, so they turn to selling to make money.

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Okay, kids in the suburbs are doing drugs socially. It's common. I get that.

But how many adults responsible for the upkeep of the neighborhood are strung out on drugs compared to adults in crime-ridden areas?

I'd bet there is quite a contrast.

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Do you believe that all Muslims are terrorists or evil?

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Of course not; I've seen some truly beautiful Muslim families, MC. In all honesty, I could be envious of the character-building results of many who follow the RIGHTEOUS/virtuous Principles of their chosen Islamic Faith...and reject the bad. Even and especially as compared to problematic freedoms in Westernized (narcissistic consumerism) Christianity. Christians pay a high price therein.

IMO, Jesus' Gospel is perfect; He updated the flaws in the Old Testament. Mohammads...ain't. It needs fixing. And the parts that need fixing put dedicated Muslims in a serious bind; re whether or not to support their Islamic Brethren, and even the very WORDS AND ACTIONS of Muhammad, and the mandate in their Book that renders them unable to criticize it (the Religion). That is a recipe for disaster.

Not to even mention that the good Muslims are in line for beheading if they do challenge the rogues.

It's Mohammad's fault; flawed from the beginning and highly problematic. Forcing people to believe is rotten to the philosophical/moral core. Even God gives us a choice. Though I am on record as stating/believing that it is the duty of a responsible Government...to (forcibly) educate the citizenry. That is 'problematic' too.

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Probably not many that are strung out, depending on one's definition of strung out. Plenty are users of various drugs though. I've never read any research into it and just basing it off my observations after living in 3 major cities(Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham) and doing drugs in those cities.

But I think you can look at the patients at various drug rehab places and come to the conclusion that middle and upper middle class people use drugs just as much as those in impoverished areas.

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From Cracked Article:

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It's also worth noting that Walt's infamous "blue" meth wouldn't have made one frick of difference to street-level addicts. Any sane dealer is going to cut that shite because it means more profit! There's only one group of meth users that would really care about 99 percent purity: rich people who like to party. And these people aren't getting busted on the street or breaking any visible bad. They have lawyers and nice cars, thus rendering them functionally invisible to most copdar.

So yeah, the stereotype of the unemployed drug addict isn't particularly accurate. The gub'mint estimates that three-quarters of drug users are employed. That shouldn't be too surprising if you've been to any good parties. But while we're busting myths, let's talk about the drug-addicted welfare recipient, tokin' his marijuanacrack on Uncle Sam's dime. Drug users are just about as common among welfare recipients as they are anywhere else. There's zero evidence for a giant underclass of drug-addicted welfare sucklers. It's almost like bad shite happens to sober people too

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But science has found the literal opposite to be true: Only a small percentage of drug users commit non-drug crimes. When arrested drug users commit a second crime, it's almost always another case of "caught getting high." There's no armed robbery switch that enough hydrocodone flips in your head. If you're willing to shoot a man for drugs, you'd probably be willing to shoot him for a whole bunch of reasons.

Surveys of the prison population have found that 60 percent of incarcerated drug users didn't start until after their first arrest. So there's a pretty clear connection between being in prison and drug addiction. Someone should look into that.

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6 Drug Myths People Teach as Fact

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But I think you can look at the patients at various drug rehab places and come to the conclusion that middle and upper middle class people use drugs just as much as those in impoverished areas.

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I'd say there are many more middle and upper middle class people than there are poor people, first off. So it wouldn't be surprising that there would be more in a rehab facility.

Secondly, I'd assume middle and upper middle class people are more likely to go to rehab than low income people.

So I don't think that is a good indicator.

It was implied earlier that affluent white neighborhoods don't crumble from the war on drugs like black neighborhoods, I guess because white cops only harass the blacks. But we can let this thread die now.