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Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 3:22 pm to
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I was always surprised how long he stayed at Cagliari before moving to a big club...



Cagliari tends to be able to hold onto a lot of star players a couple of years longer than you would think. In addition to Naingollan, recently, Astori, Matri, and now Murru, Conte and Ibarbo (though I think he'll move soon) have all stayed longer even with many offers from bigger clubs coming in. I think that it's a beautiful city in Mediterranean island beach paradise has a little to do with it. They all also end up with Sardinian girlfriends / wives.
I used to spend every summer there for almost 10 years and still can't believe I didn't simply stay regardless of work. Players also really loved their crazy ex-owner Cellino.


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On a side note, and new NYC bands I need to pay attention to?


I'm really so out of the loop on a lot of newer bands in the city these days. I end up seeing bands that play with my gf's band, Baby Shakes, and some good friends bands like Daddy Longlegs and DJing once or twice a month and otherwise just having friends over to listen to obscure 70s powerpop and glam 45s. Maybe I need a mid-life crises to shake me out of middle-age sedation.



Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22278 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 5:13 pm to
Ha! I hear ya.. My gf toured for twenty years and quit playing music 2 years ago.. We can talk ourselves out of going to see almost any show, for the silliest reasons.. both of us are now in our 40s, but we did marry up a killer record collection! It's kinda funny to see that when I was into midwestern garage rock from the 80s, she was listening to Swedish Glam from the 70s and so on...
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:34 pm to
considering arsenal have 5 healthy defenders right now, i'm very bummed we failed to land Manolas.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:28 pm to
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considering arsenal have 5 healthy defenders right now, i'm very bummed we failed to land Manolas.


Manolas looks pretty good but has only played 1 1/2 matches so far. He's not quite top notch reading the game but he's the fastest CB I've ever seen at Roma and good on the ball.

Roma isn't quite in the injury position of Arsenal but Castan left Saturday's match with the same nagging hamstring injury so we have 3 CBs that are all new.

LB Balzaretti is probably not coming back at all, LB Ashley Cole totally sucks so far and Holebas was bought the last day of the window.

At least Maicon came back from his Miami adventure and finally played. As long as he doesn't get wasted and put pepper jelly on Torosidis' a-hole RB at least looks ok.

Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:40 pm to
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My gf toured for twenty years and quit playing music 2 years ago.. We can talk ourselves out of going to see almost any show, for the silliest reasons.. both of us are now in our 40s, but we did marry up a killer record collection! It's kinda funny to see that when I was into midwestern garage rock from the 80s, she was listening to Swedish Glam from the 70s and so on...


We make the same excuses. Ironically we were in New Orleans this summer (with my brother's car) and kept saying how we'd go out much more if we lived there since it was so easy compared to taking late night trains or taxis back and forth to Bushwick here. Probably not that either of us believed what we were saying though.

My girlfriend has a pretty big vinyl collection but it's mainly overlap with my albatross aside from her punk 7"s. It's getting hard to deal with in a tiny Brooklyn apartment when a couch is sacrificed for more record shelves. I'm currently trying to cull out some of 100s of LPs I have with one good song which I don't even DJ since bringing LPs is such a pain.


Retirement from touring is the way to go. She's just 29 but has lost interest in touring the US and will probably just keep doing Japan and Europe a couple more times since it's fun with the bigger turnouts and you actually make money.

Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 9:30 pm to
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Retirement from touring is the way to go. She's just 29 but has lost interest in touring the US and will probably just keep doing Japan and Europe a couple more times since it's fun with the bigger turnouts and you actually make money.


The last band (of 8 years) she lived in NOLA, but her band was based in Toronto... the commute was killing her
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 9/17/14 at 8:14 pm to
Nice to get a good result tonight at home to start off on the right foot. However, I'm not sure Roma played an amazing match aside from the off the ball movement and finishing being very good in the first half.

Roma really didn't look as sound defensively as I would have preferred even before Astori's injury caused us to go down to 10 men for the last quarter hour.


CSKA played a suicidally high defensive line with Gervinho and Iturbe up front and put little pressure on Totti or the midfielders. That's just begging to concede a half dozen or so goals as Totti is still the best passer playing the game of football if there's not an athletic defender all over him all the time. I suppose that they don't face true striker less formations in league play as they were absolutely lost as to who to mark with Totti dropping deep into midfield with four or five off the ball runners darting everywhere.

It's like CSKA game planned by reading English blogs and forums derisive opinions about Roma/Serie A.


All in all though the win looks great on paper though I hope it wasn't costly since Astori and Iturbe both came off with injuries and Castan is already out right now.




This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 8:14 am
Posted by svb
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:55 am to
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Totti's record setting goal, and it was a great one. What impresses me is Totti's movement and how he gets open... Gotta think Totti saw Zabaleta was too far up field and his turn from Kompany was perfect (though Kompany probably could have done better) and when Nainggolan got the ball it left Kompany in no-man's-land. Radja's pass was pretty good as well, and the chip around Hart was magnificent.

Big point, especially without about half the regular starting XI.
Posted by drockw1
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 1:49 am to
You effers are dangerous....not looking forward to Oct 21st...great team in rhythm
Posted by glassman
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:07 am to
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You effers are dangerous....not looking forward to Oct 21st...great team in rhythm


They really are. Great team to watch. I love the way they play.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:48 pm to
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You effers are dangerous....not looking forward to Oct 21st...great team in rhythm


Our midfield is pretty damn good even with De Rossi and Strootman missing and the the way Totti drops so deep with forwards running wide and midfielders centrally isn't something teams are used to marking.

The Bayern v Roma matches will be pretty entertaining. Not expecting anything away but think we stand a decent chance at home.



I was worried about Silva, Kun, Zabaleta yesterday since De Rossi, Castan and Astori were all out and then we lost De Sanctis last minute and had to start the Polish kid in goal for his 3rd senior game ever.

However, with the way we cut through City's midfield for the first hour or so and then the clear Pjanic chance on the late counter later I was a bit disappointed to just get 1 point out of it.

All in all though, it keeps us in pretty good standing in the group if we can get all our defenders healthy.




Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:00 am to
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However, with the way we cut through City's midfield for the first hour or so and then the clear Pjanic chance on the late counter later I was a bit disappointed to just get 1 point out of it.


Yeah we could have got all 3 but when lampard came on I got scared they would steal all 3
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 11:09 am to
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However, with the way we cut through City's midfield for the first hour or so and then the clear Pjanic chance on the late counter later I was a bit disappointed to just get 1 point out of it.



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Yeah we could have got all 3 but when lampard came on I got scared they would steal all 3


I was worried as well since it would have been so disheartening in a typical Roma way after all the missed chances.

Since we've had so many injuries and had to play the same midfield so much the past 2 weeks we were really running on fumes in the last 15 minutes.


However, I would add that Pjanic's miss when Gervinho set him up on wide open at the top of the area on that counter late in the match was still probably the best chance either team had to get a late winner.



I really think Pellegrini underestimated Roma's midfield, which is odd considering that he's an excellent manager and it's not like players like Pjanic and Naingollan are short on hype even among the crowd of fans that mainly watch EPL.

Missing De Rossi hurt a lot defensively (as all the space Silva kept creating showed) but Keita has been an excellent addition and is very bit as good on the ball at DM.


Pellegrini's comments about the success City has had against good sides while playing the 2 man midfield makes me think he wasn't fully prepared for how good Roma were going to be passing through that porous of a defense (particularly on counter-counter attacks) if Silva and Navas weren't tracking back at full pace to defend like banshees or one of them being sacrificed for an extra midfielder like Lampard who could immediately press the ball high.

I even read on a City message board before the game a group of Bosnian Man City fans (who I suppose watch both sides a lot for Dzeko and Pjanic) warning precisely against thinking that a 4-4-2 would work like it does in England against Roma's attack.


Roma's midfield attacking patterns and quality of one touch passing on breaks is excellent but perhaps there's a key difference in how Roma plays compared to top EPL sides and it's something that has been giving Serie A sides fits as well:



1) The three forwards interchange not only positions but roles constantly (for example: the Totti goal came from Totti drifting and making the run I guarantee City practiced a hundred times to expect/cover from Gervinho/Florenzi with Totti playing the through ball).

Another feature is that the wingers actually defend and win balls deep in their half but don't do so just in desperate situations but with the midfielders rotating out and replacing them into positions for the counter. This usually involves Totti dropping deep to pick out a player in space. There's many times that Totti is deeper than any other outfield player aside from the 2 CBs. It's also why Garcia loves guys like Gervinho, Iturbe and Florenzi who actually try to defend like fullbacks and not the matador efforts you see from most forwards.

The intricacies of that position morphing is what defines Rudi Garcia's system. It's also why it's hard to replace a Totti with Destro or to replace Florenzi with a creative passer who doesn't defend well like Ljajic and still keep the movement so fluid.

This system give Serie A back lines and midfields a lot of trouble since Garcia arrived and it was interesting to see that it give City the same headaches.






This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 10:24 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:04 pm to
Just what Roma needed against Chievo considering all the injury issues: 3 early goals from Destro, Llajic and Totti and cruising for the last 60 minutes. Yanga-Mbiwa has been really impressive although if he plays against Bayern -- not sure if he or Astori will start next to Manolas since Castan is still out -- and keeps up all the fancy dribbling tricks and backheels in our area I'll have a heart attack.


Vs Bayern Tuesday:

Sellout of over 70k should provide a crackling atmosphere at the Olimpico.

I expect both teams to get chances but it should be a great match. Roma will try to pressure early and hit on counters but my concern is that we have only 3 healthy midfielders (Paredes and Ucan have looked good but won't play unless there's an injury).

Missing both Keita and Strootman strips Garcia of the fresh midfield sub he likes to bring in around 75' and that could be costly against Bayern since our midfield will be doing a lot more chasing than normal. It already hurt against City and Bayern is on another level.

I can't say that I'm confident our defense will stand up to Bayern's attack but I do think we pose a real threat against their style with Totti plus the smooth passing midfield looking for Iturbe and Gervinho racing around their CBs.

One key will be how Maicon and Cole stand up to Bayern's superb wingers and not force Iturbe and Gervinho to be drawn out of counter attacking positions to help too often. Torosidis could be a surprise start since he's probably the most defensively sound RB/LB.


All things considered, I think most Roma fans will be content with Roma simply coming out an punching equally with Bayern considering their quality and experience regardless of how the actual goals fall. However, I also doubt Bayern is overconfident about getting a full 3 points.



Probable lineup:


De Sanctis

Maicon -- Manolas -- Astori/Mbiwa -- Cole

--- De Rossi ---

Naingollan -- Pjanic

--- Totti ---

Iturbe -- Gervinho









Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116109 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:07 pm to
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wm72


It is going to be a great match. I can't wait to watch it.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:18 pm to
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It is going to be a great match. I can't wait to watch it.


I really hope Roma can hold up their end of the bargain.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116109 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:44 pm to
Something in your last post sends me to the Ticket Exchange Board. Weird as frick.

Roma has nothing to fear from any squad in Europe or Serie A at the moment. I love the way they play. Getting Strootman back is going to fuel y'all to fear no team.
Posted by drockw1
Member since Jun 2006
9106 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:53 pm to
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I really hope Roma can hold up their end of the bargain.


I think this is going to be a hell of a match...Roma is IMO the most dangerous team in the tourney. I'd be pretty happy getting a point out of this one.

Looking forward to seeing the packed house...Security for Benatia has been pre-arranged, so we're good there




Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:14 pm to

Do you think Pep will play Benatia?

It would be a real roll of the dice since I've noticed he hasn't been the lineup recently and the environment will be hostile to say the least towards him but he could certainly add the experience will practicing against Roma's attack for over a year.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:23 pm to
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Roma has nothing to fear from any squad in Europe or Serie A at the moment. I love the way they play. Getting Strootman back is going to fuel y'all to fear no team.


Yeah, we really need Strootman back. Keita has been amazing but he's injured as well and out midfield is getting run pretty ragged.

I'm cautiously optimistic that we can overtake Juve for the Scudetto if Strootman comes back full strength and we'd be a tough out in CL if we manage to get out of this group.

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