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re: If Archie ever had an offensive line to speak of,
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:30 pm to BRL79
Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:30 pm to BRL79
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But like you said, one or two good seasons doesn't justify being a great QB. If Namath is in the hof then Archie was at least a good qb
He did well in comparison to his contemporaries. Archie didn't stack up as well.
His status off the field had a lot to do with it too.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 1:31 pm
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 1:31 pm to BRL79
Namath is certainly overrated, but he was a HOFer for sure.
his statistics were consistent. Unfortunately INTs were part of that consistency.
He has some seasons with off the fricking charts YPA, yards, etc. and he had two bum knees.
Joe's guarantee is something akin to the old western legends. People love a good story.
his statistics were consistent. Unfortunately INTs were part of that consistency.
He has some seasons with off the fricking charts YPA, yards, etc. and he had two bum knees.
Joe's guarantee is something akin to the old western legends. People love a good story.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:23 pm to DelU249
Let's look at this from a different angle.
Instead of the Archie arguement, how about this for a twist.
What if Peyton Manning were to have played for the Saints of the 70's, would we have been a better team? Would he have put up similar TD/INT numbers as Archie? Would he still be considered for the Hall of Fame? Same for Brees during the 70's. i tend to think that greatness inspires those around them and Peyton and/or Brees would have equalled better results with the same supporting cast.
Instead of the Archie arguement, how about this for a twist.
What if Peyton Manning were to have played for the Saints of the 70's, would we have been a better team? Would he have put up similar TD/INT numbers as Archie? Would he still be considered for the Hall of Fame? Same for Brees during the 70's. i tend to think that greatness inspires those around them and Peyton and/or Brees would have equalled better results with the same supporting cast.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:34 pm to Dats Who
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What if Peyton Manning were to have played for the Saints of the 70's, would we have been a better team? Would he have put up similar TD/INT numbers as Archie? Would he still be considered for the Hall of Fame? Same for Brees during the 70's. i tend to think that greatness inspires those around them and Peyton and/or Brees would have equalled better results with the same supporting cast.
I agree because both of them are great QBs, Archie was not in any way shape or form a great or even a good QB.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 4:59 pm to Meateye
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I agree because both of them are great QBs, Archie was not in any way shape or form a great or even a good QB.
Agreed, was trying to give fox his apples to apples comparison.
Archie will always have a place in our hearts, but he was not great. So many people try to make the same argument as the OP.
Posted on 8/7/14 at 5:53 pm to Dats Who
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Agreed, was trying to give fox his apples to apples comparison.
Archie will always have a place in our hearts, but he was not great. So many people try to make the same argument as the OP.
Even Tim Tebow had a higher QB rating in his playing time than Archie did in his for Gods sake.
Archies QB rating was 67.1 by the way
Posted on 8/7/14 at 6:51 pm to Meateye
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Tim Tebow had a higher QB rating in his playing time than Archie did in his for Gods sake
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 8:04 pm to goatmilker
Posted on 8/7/14 at 9:47 pm to DelU249
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speaking of contradictory
If your point is that Archie Manning was not a good professional QB then:
Your opinion happens to be the opposite of every professional football coach and NFL player who ever bothered to opine about Archie Manning.
Yours is the minority opinion by a very large degree.
This post was edited on 8/7/14 at 9:54 pm
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