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re: (update pg 3)When an potential employer ask you how much you want
Posted on 8/4/14 at 6:32 pm to the_dude
Posted on 8/4/14 at 6:32 pm to the_dude
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i have heard of new employers requiring to see a paystub after you start, if you lied, then ur fired.
I would laugh at that shite if an employer asked me for a paystub from my previous job. Would flat out refuse whether or not I was honest.
My response would be: You know what the market is for this position, you agreed to X because you thought I was worth X. End of discussion.
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:05 am to lsuCJ5
Are you working in natural gas?
Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:17 am to lsuCJ5
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He did email me an offer today for $50 more a week I am making now. That is not exactly what I asked for. I'll decline the offer and see what I can get out of him. Anyone one had any luck getting more money after the initial decline?
So $2,600/yr raise.
See if you can meet in person and discuss. Tell him that you are happy where you are now, and that it would take a significant bump to get you to want to leave. He's going to have less costs training you, presumably. Remind him of that. Let him know what market is.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:22 am to yellowfin
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We will supply 3 things to future employers doing background checks
1. starting compensation
Just curious, why would anyone care about this? Especially if it was years ago?
Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:28 am to lsuCJ5
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He did email me an offer today for $50 more a week I am making now. That is not exactly what I asked for. I'll decline the offer and see what I can get out of him. Anyone one had any luck getting more money after the initial decline?
Well this might be the reason why they are losing people...
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:10 am to wickowick
Email him back with your demands. Tell him they aren't negotiable below that point. He sought you back. He needs you back.
Also tell him you will level with your current boss to see if they bring more to the table to keep you, since $50 is as high as he offered.
Give him one week to give you a final offer and get a NDA (non disclosure) guaranteeing he has NO contact with your current employer, period!
He wants you.
Also tell him you will level with your current boss to see if they bring more to the table to keep you, since $50 is as high as he offered.
Give him one week to give you a final offer and get a NDA (non disclosure) guaranteeing he has NO contact with your current employer, period!
He wants you.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:57 am to BobRoss
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Are you working in natural gas?
nope....construction related.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:16 am to Cold Cous Cous
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Just curious, why would anyone care about this? Especially if it was years ago?
better judge how an employee progressed while with the company
if the guy worked for us for 7 years and got minimum cost of living raises he probably wasn't worth a shite compared to someone who was promoted and given big raises every year
Posted on 8/5/14 at 12:16 pm to yellowfin
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if the guy worked for us for 7 years and got minimum cost of living raises he probably wasn't worth a shite compared to someone who was promoted and given big raises every year
Man, this is sooo wrong.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 12:35 pm to Python
so you're saying good employees don't get promoted and raises and bad ones do?
interesting
interesting
Posted on 8/5/14 at 12:42 pm to lsuCJ5
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When an potential
Whatever you do, don't use the word "an" in your response if the following word doesn't begin with a vowel.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 12:51 pm to yellowfin
I'll give you an example. The best employee each year rates an "Exceeds" on their yearly review. Top notch work. Best in the department. However, the company gives out pitiful raises, including to their top performers. Let's say you're looking at the salary history of this employee vs the salary history of an employee at another company, and that other company gives out big raises.
You cannot compare the productivity of the two employees based on what raises they've received over the years.
You cannot compare the productivity of the two employees based on what raises they've received over the years.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 12:56 pm to Python
Well it's not the best way but it's one of the ways you have to do it with limited information.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 2:38 pm to lsuCJ5
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He did email me an offer today for $50 more a week I am making now. That is not exactly what I asked for. I'll decline the offer and see what I can get out of him. Anyone one had any luck getting more money after the initial decline?
I have been on the hiring end of this situation a few times. It never works out in the end when it is nickle and diming and negotiating. My best employees wanted to be here no questions asked and love it. Every single time I have had to negotiate they didn't last long before they were headed to another gig for a little more pay. People either want to be there or they don't. A few dollars one way or the other doesn't matter. Plus, it is far more about salary. There are tons of other variables many miss on. Who you are working for and with, 401k match, vacation, industry, etc...
I am not knocking anyone. Everyone has to do what is best for them financially. I just find people who come on board without a big negotiation ordeal have made better employees for me and they end up making a great money long-term.
ETA: *steps off soap box*
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:03 pm to lsu13lsu
I'm not saying I wouldn't want the cheap guy...but a smart employee would try to maximize what he's worth.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 4:25 pm to lsu13lsu
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I have been on the hiring end of this situation a few times. It never works out in the end when it is nickle and diming and negotiating. My best employees wanted to be here no questions asked and love it. Every single time I have had to negotiate they didn't last long before they were headed to another gig for a little more pay. People either want to be there or they don't. A few dollars one way or the other doesn't matter. Plus, it is far more about salary. There are tons of other variables many miss on. Who you are working for and with, 401k match, vacation, industry, etc... I am not knocking anyone. Everyone has to do what is best for them financially. I just find people who come on board without a big negotiation ordeal have made better employees for me and they end up making a great money long-term.
He just emailed me back and said he cannot offer me more that the initial offer. He said he supposedly checked with HR and a head hunter, and that is the best they can do.I agree with what you have to say above, the benefits are slightly better and the pay is better ($50 more per week), but it is worth a move for this? I know how the old company operates, it is not like I would be going to start fresh somewhere new.
It just sucks, I was hoping to make a move for a little more money but I guess I will though it out at the current job until boss man is gone for good.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:08 pm to lsuCJ5
When leaving a company for another, I've produced W-2s and production reports.
I'm in sales. You are damn sure that a sales person knows exactly where they stand financially and competitively. I knew their reputation and they knew mine. I absolutely was going to put a good foot forward.
At the time, I was given a draw 2xs the starting draw for other new hires. At the end of the day, the draw didn't matter (commissions hit the draw in under 5 weeks), but it showed me how bad they wanted me and showed them what type of a driven sales rep they were getting.
As someone else said, if you aren't into them and they aren't into you... it's pointless.
I'm in sales. You are damn sure that a sales person knows exactly where they stand financially and competitively. I knew their reputation and they knew mine. I absolutely was going to put a good foot forward.
At the time, I was given a draw 2xs the starting draw for other new hires. At the end of the day, the draw didn't matter (commissions hit the draw in under 5 weeks), but it showed me how bad they wanted me and showed them what type of a driven sales rep they were getting.
As someone else said, if you aren't into them and they aren't into you... it's pointless.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:22 pm to yellowfin
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if the guy worked for us for 7 years and got minimum cost of living raises he probably wasn't worth a shite compared to someone who was promoted and given big raises every year
If this is the case I hope my next employer asks both of those questions (starting and current)
I would think the "promotions" part would be covered by looking at a resume though, right? Doesn't seem like something that would be hidden by the employee (if they have risen aggressively within the company).
Posted on 8/6/14 at 5:48 am to lsuCJ5
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It just sucks, I was hoping to make a move for a little more money but I guess I will though it out at the current job until boss man is gone for good.
No way I would make a move for $50 a week unless I hated my current job and was looking to leave anyway. Or if you really want to go back to other place, have them give you more perks and some sort of guaranteed % raises.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 7:37 am to lsuCJ5
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It just sucks, I was hoping to make a move for a little more money but I guess I will though it out at the current job until boss man is gone for good.
Yup... especially since they came to you.
Im sure you will. But when you decline remind him how this conversation started and thank him for following up and trying to make it work. And let him know that you are always available for a discussion on moving back.
He knows your number. He might come knock again.
Especially after they pay the headhunters for a while
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