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(update pg 3)When an potential employer ask you how much you want

Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
962 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:15 pm
I left company A about 4 years ago and I left on very good terms to work for company B. I have always kept in touch with my coworkers from company A. Recently a group of co workers from company A asked to lunch and I agreed. The lunch pretty much turned into an interview and do you want to come back to company A. I like working for company B , but some supervision changes may be headed my way.

One day after the lunch with coworkers from company A, my old boss calls and said for me to email him what it would take for me to go back to company A. He also mentioned they were short staffed and felt confident I could fill the shoes of a senior position. So I asked for my current wages plus 20%. It has been 1.5 days and I have heard no response from company A

What do you think? Did I ask for too much or chill and wait to see what company A counter offers?
This post was edited on 8/8/14 at 9:19 am
Posted by Costanza
Member since May 2011
3151 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:17 pm to
Chill and don't budge on the money. Throw in an extra week vacation when he calls. Good luck.
Posted by tigerbaittrick
Member since Jan 2010
7265 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 2:32 pm to
Definitely hang tight. It's the weekend, after all.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12609 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

I could feel the shoes of a senior position.


I guess feeling them would be better than tasting them.
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
962 posts
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:33 pm to
Thanks guys.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17785 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 12:43 pm to
Hes short handed i think you got him. hell i would asked for 25% more and a month of vacation
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 9:42 pm to
One of two things is happening:

1) He has yet to read the e-mail.

2) He's trying to make it work.

If that number was not at all feasible, he would have immediately said so.

Sounds like you might be in a sweet spot. Good luck. Just remember why you left in the first place. =)
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:11 am to
First off, I'd have to try as hard as possible to put myself in my old shoes 4 yrs ago and remember why I left. Was it pretty bad? That may be why they are short staffed...nothing has changed.

I don't think you goofed on the money, but I would also get more vacation added in as full as wanting to be fully vested immediately (almost like you never left) for all of your 401k, benefits etc.

You never get a second chance to negotiate your contract after you sign on the dotted line.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8374 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 8:30 am to
Did you ask for it literally as "I want to make 20% more than I make now" or did you say "I need to make $x to move". I typically won't tell them what I make now and if they ask I lie and tell them I make what I need to move. They're going to lie to you so it's all fair play.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Did you ask for it literally as "I want to make 20% more than I make now" or did you say "I need to make $x to move". I typically won't tell them what I make now and if they ask I lie and tell them I make what I need to move. They're going to lie to you so it's all fair play.


Except if they call your current employer to confirm salary, and they are given that information.

Now, of course, many employers these days only confirm dates of employment, and nothing else.
Posted by the_dude
Member since Jul 2012
65 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:33 am to
you shouldnt lie. just dodge the question and tell them what you need to make to move. some places do some verification after the fact and people have gotten let go based on lieing about their past compensation.

just dodge it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95122 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

some places do some verification after the fact
How could they find out?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:05 pm to
verify with former employer
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:08 pm to
Do former employers actually give out that information? If so, why?
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8374 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

some places do some verification after the fact


eh..I guess so. In my field it seems like that must not happen.

You can creatively dodge it I suppose. Just have your number in mind. In my case I'm usually 5% higher than my number since I've never had someone not try to offer me less than asking.

Them: How much do you make?
You: Well it'd take $x for me to move.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:16 pm to
the best answer to this question is - I just want what is fair for the position.

My experience if you hem and haw on the issue, you will likely get more money than you will if you tell them your salary ahead of time.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97632 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Do former employers actually give out that information? If so, why?




We will supply 3 things to future employers doing background checks

1. starting compensation
2. last compensation
3. are they elible for rehire
Posted by lsuCJ5
Holly Springs, NC
Member since Nov 2012
962 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Did you ask for it literally as "I want to make 20% more than I make now" or did you say "I need to make $x to move". I typically won't tell them what I make now and if they ask I lie and tell them I make what I need to move. They're going to lie to you so it's all fair play.


I told him what I wanted in order to make a move. I left because I was in the field and not in the office. if they would have offered me to move back into the office, I may have not left in the first place. Old boss was a very good person to work for.

He did email me an offer today for $50 more a week I am making now. That is not exactly what I asked for. I'll decline the offer and see what I can get out of him. Anyone one had any luck getting more money after the initial decline?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32445 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

He did email me an offer today for $50 more a week I am making now. That is not exactly what I asked for. I'll decline the offer and see what I can get out of him. Anyone one had any luck getting more money after the initial decline?


Sounds like he low balled you pretty badly. Good luck
Posted by the_dude
Member since Jul 2012
65 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 5:33 pm to
not as much with former employers, as there are laws against it.

i have heard of new employers requiring to see a paystub after you start, if you lied, then ur fired.

also, there are some other 3rd party ways.

best is to just dodge it adn state you want what it fair for the position like others have said.
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