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re: So LSU is afraid to play at Camp Randall Stadium?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:51 pm to gar90
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:51 pm to gar90
I heard that is was definitely going to be an opening week game and LSU didn't want to have a game that would fill up the stadium just incase it wasn't completed ans LSU wanted the first game, not the return trip. I was thinking that was probably smart considering all of the new young talent.
I have no idea whether this is actually true, it just what I have heard.
I have no idea whether this is actually true, it just what I have heard.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:00 am to hoopsgalore
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Not only is the university second behind Texas in athletic revenue
I didn't believe this so I looked it up.
You're right Wisconsin was #2 in revenue for 2012-13. However, it was an abnormality. Wisconsin for some reason received an extraordinarily high amount of donations that one year (59 million of it's 149 million revenue) which accounted for over 1/3 of it's revenue for that year. Wisconsin is the only team in the top 10 who's donations make up the majority of it's revenue.
That abnormality says to me that some wealthy donors made a one time contribution to build something new with their name on it. Maybe that new Student Athletic Performance Center which used 37 million in donations? The year before Wisconsin only brought in 103 million in revenue and was #12.
Also Wisconsin was #2 in expenses. It made only 2.3 million in profit and wasn't in the top 10.
The top 10 in profit was
Ohio State - 24 million
Alabama - 21.37 million
Oklahoma - 21.36 million
Texas - 18.9 million
Florida - 18.6 million
Oregon - 18 million
Michigan - 12.2 million
LSU - 12.1 million
Kansas - 11 million
Kansas St - 9 million
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 4:27 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:27 am to hoopsgalore
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Scott Van Pelt [on multiple occasions] calling Wisconsin the best college town in the country
Madison is a great college town don't get me wrong but it doesn't even come close to Athens, GA.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:43 am to OU812
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If I am correct, doesn't about 35 million a year of state tax payer money go to that BILLIONAIRE owner of the New Orleans Saints just to keep them in New Orleans?
No truer words have been spoken. Nobody cares that Benson and Brees continue to get richer on the backs of honest tax paying citizens. Also how many People from Louisiana do the saints actually employ?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:57 am to OU812
what's camp randall stadium? sounds like a summer camp youth football league
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:25 am to tickfawtiger
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Time for a little loyalty to be shown to the season ticket holders...a neutral site game every few years would be fine...but every year ?
plus it hurts your bottom line
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IF, it's all about the $ why not "sell" some of our SEC home games to Atl.,Jerry World and Houston ????
How would LSU make money by selling their home SEC games to a neutral site? The TV contract for that is already set up
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:56 am to GeauxTigerTM
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This, someone at LSU needs to address. If it's true, then I'm really fricking pissed. We're constantly told that the reason we have to play these neutral site games is because no one will come here. If it turns out that's true, but it's US (the administration that is) that balked at going, they need to answer for it.
Ausberry says Wisconsin AD is full of shite
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:16 am to MoneyShot
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One of our largest and wealthiest fan bases is in Houston.
Well there you go.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:41 am to MoneyShot
I can see both sides on this one. Ausberry went into the talks on a mission to play in Houston, and Alvarez could not figure out why LSU wouldn't want to play a home and home. Ausberry was going to find a team to play LSU in Houston, so when Alvarez proposed the home and home, Ausberry was not interested (LSU wanted to give the Houston alumni a "home" game). He didn't need to tell Wis why a Houston game was the only reason they were talking. Then Wis proposed the Lambeau game, and that looked attractive to LSU just because of the history of the place. Like most things, there are two sides to the story because there are two different perceptions of the talks.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:48 am to PeteRowe
Except Ausberry says the subject of a home and home was never discussed.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:49 am to MoneyShot
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Ausberry says Wisconsin AD is full of shite
OK...but aren't we told that we schedule these neutral site games because we have to? Because no one will play home and homes with us?
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"It was never home-and-home," Ausberry said. "We had a mission and that was to play in Houston. We were looking for an opponent and then Lambeau Field came up.
"We had done Atlanta and Dallas. One of our largest and wealthiest fan bases is in Houston."
It appears that the issue has less to do with an inability to get a home and home scheduled and more to do with a desire to actually play at neutral sites...at least in this case, and that's regardless of what Alverez says after the fact.
Look...I'm a season ticket holder that lives in the Lafayette area. It's obviously in my best interest to have all possible LSU home games played AT Tiger Stadium. If it's in LSU's best interest to play one OOC game at a neutral site every year either for financial reasons (payout from network or to placate a large donor base) or for some perceived recruiting advantage, then fine. Make that case.
But...don't tell me as a season ticket holder that we HAVE TO play them and then run out the above as a balm to ease the pain of losing a home game. "Well...we really want to play home and homes with the big boys, but you know...they won;t come here. But look...we make a ton of money from these games AND we have a bunch of alumni there...and it's a recruiting hot bed, so...let's make the best of it?" Go with the real reason up front and let the chips fall where they may with your ticket holders.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:51 am to GeauxTigerTM
I've never seen an LSU official quoted as saying no one wants to play LSU OOC in Tiger Stadium. I've seen it plenty on message boards though.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:58 am to MoneyShot
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Except Ausberry says the subject of a home and home was never discussed.
No, he does not say that in the article. He says it was never a home and home, and given that LSU's objective WAS a neutral site game then not even being interested in talking about a home and home, regardless of whether Alverez brought it up, makes sense.
But there's nothing in that article that says Verge never once heard Wisky talk about a desire for a home and home...just that it was never the objective.
This looks like a case of LSU WANTING a neutral site game, and when then found Wisjy willing to make the trip to Houston but were also willing to have LSU go back up and play at Camp Randall LSU said, nah... Not because of fear, but because LSU went into this wanting to play a game in Houston, and if the Houston trip was going to be neutral then you couldn't have the return trip be in Camp Randall, as that really would be a competitive disadvantage for LSU.
What I don't understand (and this assumes Alverez is on the level) is why LSU would not just tell Wisky, "Hey...we have a huge alumni base in Houston and we recruit a ton there. We want to play a game there, make sense?" Doesn't seem to be any reason to have it be a secret or something they were unwilling to tell Wisky.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:00 am to MoneyShot
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I've never seen an LSU official quoted as saying no one wants to play LSU OOC in Tiger Stadium. I've seen it plenty on message boards though.
I'm super busy this morning, so I'll allow someone else to find the quotes...they are out there. It's been said nearly every time we play an OOC game at a neutral site.
I want to say Aleva has addressed this issue in his letters to season ticket holders, but I can't be sure. But it has been said numerous times...that we want to play home and home games but can't because teams balk at coming here.
Hopefully someone will track down a few quotes...
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:04 am to GeauxTigerTM
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No, he does not say that in the article.
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LSU senior associate athletic director Verge Ausberry said Wednesday a home-and-home series was never part of the discussion with Wisconsin despite comments to the contrary by Badgers' athletic director Barry Alvarez.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:15 am to MoneyShot
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LSU senior associate athletic director Verge Ausberry said Wednesday a home-and-home series was never part of the discussion with Wisconsin despite comments to the contrary by Badgers' athletic director Barry Alvarez.
That's a recap...here his actual quote:
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"It was never home-and-home," Ausberry said. "We had a mission and that was to play in Houston. We were looking for an opponent and then Lambeau Field came up.
"We had done Atlanta and Dallas. One of our largest and wealthiest fan bases is in Houston."
The quotation marks mean the person actual said those words...
It might be semantics, but had Verge said, "No...at no point did Wisconsin ever bring up the possibility of a home and home with us," then I'm pretty sure Kleinpeter would have quoted him in the piece, don't you? Verge was purposefully vague and said, "It was never home and home." Given LSU was not, ever, interested in this game being played as a home and home series because they were looking for a game in Houston, ( LINK) then it makes sense that they would not even be open to discussing anything else...hence, it was never a home and home.
LSU was never interested in this game being played as a home and home, and given what Aleva has said in regards to playing a game in Houston, the reason why is clearly NT fear on LSU's part. But let's not pretend this series was ever open to being played at Tiger Stadium and Camp Randall, because regardless of what Alverez may or may not have said, LSU wanted to play in Houston.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:19 am to I20goon
Madison is a great college town, but Lambeau is pretty cool also. It is basically a home field - not a neutral site. That is like calling the Superdome a neutral site.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:28 am to Broyota2
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Scott Van Pelt [on multiple occasions] calling Wisconsin the best college town in the country
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Madison is a great college town don't get me wrong but it doesn't even come close to Athens, GA.
Well, that's your opinion. What I said merely had to do with some of the free publicity Wisconsin receives:
SVP reacts to Wisconsin win over tOSU
SVP declares Madison America's greatest college sports town
This is an SEC blog, yes?
Sports Illustrated on Campus ranked Madison 1st.
USA Today Travel
I don't feel like continuing. I mean, it's seriously an opinionated question, but there are plenty of publications and people that would put Madison up at the top of any list.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 8:29 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:30 am to GeauxTigerTM
I suppose it's open to interpretation but I have a hard time believing Ausberry would stonewall Alvarez if the topic of a home-and-home was brought up.
So either Alvarez is lying about a home-and-home being discussed, or about Ausberry giving no reason as to why LSU wouldn't even consider it.
So either Alvarez is lying about a home-and-home being discussed, or about Ausberry giving no reason as to why LSU wouldn't even consider it.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:46 am to OU812
Oh so because it's at a neutral site LSU is afraid? Ok. Then Wisconsin is afraid to play at Tiger Stadium. See how stupid that is?
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