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re: So I finally watched Pulp Fiction all the way through
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:34 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:34 pm to Fun Bunch
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Exactly. I'm sure I will get shite for it, but I consider it the "Citizen Kane" of the 90s. Not because its the greatest film of all time, but because it drastically changed filmmaking in a lot of ways.
I think that's fair. It's a movie that was so revolutionary that it no longer seems so because, well, it won. It gave birth to that cinematic shorthand we now take for granted. It's not the first film to be shot out of sequence or anything, but it does use a lot of the cuts to its advantage. It's not non-sequential just for the hell of it. And I rather enjoy the idea of two hitmen "commuting".
It was definitely when the Sundance generation took over the multiplex. Mainstream, big cineplex movies didn't have to look the same anymore. Forest Gump is a movie that could have come out in 1974 or even 1954 (well, with different references). It's a comfortable story we know all of the beats to. Even the music cues are well-worn.
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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true romance sucks for the most part, fwiw
you suck...for the whole part
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:38 pm to Fun Bunch
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You have to realize that at the time, there wasn't much like it, ever, in a fairly major release.
This. I had to take an extra humanities elective for my degree and I settled on a general introduction to the arts class. Of all the various forms or art that we explored, we spent more time studying this in the film section than any other individual piece or art in all of the history of mankind.
Even more of those incredibly fat saggy titty'd pregnant woman sculptures from ancient Mesopotamia that revolutionized theory on how art represents what was important to a culture.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 7/29/14 at 3:47 pm to biglego
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biglego
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I'm right there with you, OP. but on this board Pulp Fiction is the movie equivalent of Breaking Bad which we know is the greatest achievement in human history.
So you don't consider either Breaking Bad or Pulp Fiction as exceptional pieces of cinema?
Someone remind me to NEVER take this guy's opinion as anything but jibba-jabba.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:03 pm to RollTide1987
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I've just never been the biggest Tarantino fan. I have seen most of his films and they all jive about the same with me. Good, entertaining films that fall short of greatness. There is nothing deep about them at all. He's just a fan boy paying homage to different styles of filmmaking. I can respect that but that in no way makes him so genius you have to "get" in order to enjoy his films.
That's fair. I can see how people who like a certain style of filmmaking, ie Forrest Gump, just wouldn't like QT.
But I would just disagree. He is an absolutely exceptional writer. His scripts are just amazing, and the scenes he creates almost entirely through dialogue are, at times, nothing short of exceptional. Think of that very first scene in IB, where the tension just keeps getting heightened and heightened almost to the point of being unbearable...almost entirely through dialogue.
And while he does come across as a fanboy paying homage to his favorite films, he revels in it. He takes those old scenes and films and creates more than mere imitations: he subverts them, he elevates some of them, rolls around and gleefully rubs his body all over there carcass. You're missing some truly exceptional filmmaking if you just see thin homages.
He has his flaws as a filmmaker for sure, but for me, his films are always entertaining as frick, which is mainly what I ask for in a film.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:06 pm to RollTide1987
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So I finally watched Pulp Fiction all the way through
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I don't see what all the hype is about.
Stopped reading right there - that's one of the best films in the past 30 years, period.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:13 pm to RollTide1987
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Great, entertaining films that fall short of greatness. There is nothing deep about them at all. He's just a fan boy paying homage to different styles of filmmaking. I can respect that but that in no way makes him so genius you have to "get" in order to enjoy his films.
FIFY, but you pretty much nailed it.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:14 pm to Fun Bunch
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Exactly. I'm sure I will get shite for it, but I consider it the "Citizen Kane" of the 90s. Not because its the greatest film of all time, but because it drastically changed filmmaking in a lot of ways.
I once heard Adam Savage (of Mythbusters) say that one of his wishes would be that he could go back in time and see Pulp Fiction for the first time again. I can appreciate that feeling.
Though I've always enjoyed Reservoir Dogs more, but it's hard to argue both the quality and the importance of PF.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:17 pm to GeauxTigerTM
At the time, I probably liked Resevoir more.
Now, as they have both aged, I think PF is lightyears better than RD.
Now, as they have both aged, I think PF is lightyears better than RD.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:18 pm to RollTide1987
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Forrest Gump had a very clear and concise story that was easy to follow. I hate waiting 2 1/2 hours for the punch line to a movie. Up until the final scene, when we re-visit Tim Roth and Amanda Plummer in the coffee shop, I was going to write off the film as nothing but mediocre.
The name of the movie is Pulp Fiction...what did you expect?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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That's fair. I can see how people who like a certain style of filmmaking, ie Forrest Gump, just wouldn't like QT.
Exactly. I enjoyed Forest Gump...but it's bubble gum. It's easy. It pulls at all the same heart strings. It's an easy watch.
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If that's your cup of tea, then yeah...MAYBE Pulp Fiction isn't going to be your bag.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:20 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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If that's your cup of tea, then yeah...MAYBE Pulp Fiction isn't going to be your bag.
Thing is, I like both linear and non-linear forms of storytelling. When I write screenplays for short films I typically go the non-linear route because it's more interesting. Despite this, however, Pulp Fiction didn't seem like it was all that it was cracked up to be.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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At the time, I probably liked Resevoir more.
Now, as they have both aged, I think PF is lightyears better than RD.
I hear people say that...they've never flip-flopped for me. It think that's largely because I really enjoy Tim Roth, so seeing his Mr.Orange is a still a treat. Plus, I enjoy the heist aspect.
I'll say this...if I were to list my favorite scenes from both, oddly enough PF would have more...but I'd prefer to watch RD in total more so than PF. I have to be up to watch PF...
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:25 pm to RollTide1987
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Thing is, I like both linear and non-linear forms of storytelling. When I write screenplays for short films I typically go the non-linear route because it's more interesting. Despite this, however, Pulp Fiction didn't seem like it was all that it was cracked up to be.
Probably because everything you've seen that was non-linear has been aping PF.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:36 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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I once heard Adam Savage (of Mythbusters) say that one of his wishes would be that he could go back in time and see Pulp Fiction for the first time again. I can appreciate that feeling.
I watched it when I was a kid, and hated it.
I watched it again right after I got into college, and it was a completely different experience. I wish I'd of never seen it when I was younger.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:38 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Basterds
JB is deffinitly my favorite Tarantino flick
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:47 pm to RollTide1987
What bothered you most about it?
Was it the great story(ies)?
Great dialogue?
Great acting?
Or
Lack of three-dimensional shemales floating/whining in space?
Was it the great story(ies)?
Great dialogue?
Great acting?
Or
Lack of three-dimensional shemales floating/whining in space?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:49 pm to drizztiger
quote:Reservoir Dogs
JB is deffinitly my favorite Tarantino flick
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:49 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I'm not a fanboy, but this is spot on.
He is an absolutely exceptional writer. His scripts are just amazing, and the scenes he creates almost entirely through dialogue are, at times, nothing short of exceptional.
IMO, dialogue driven movies are the de facto epitome of good writing and directing. QT nails this as a writer and filmmaker.
Yes his films can be quirky, he's a culture figure all in himself, has a fanboy following, etc.
But he's made his mark and cinema is better because of it. Pulp Fiction is a very good movie.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:50 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Lack of three-dimensional shemales floating/whining in space?
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