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re: Will Obama grant de facto amnesty to 5 million people?

Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:35 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:35 am to
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If you raise min. wage enough to actually make a difference it will lead to an increase in unemployment.



Why?


Really?

Small businesses would be the ones put in a pinch. You would have to raise the min wage enough to where it increases consumer demand enough to offset the extra costs in supplying products and services.

If a wage is above equilibrium wage, it should cause unemployment and the least skilled and least educated will be the ones left out.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:35 am to
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A pot dealer can learn spanish over the weekend. You've undoubtedly spent more time than that bitching about how you shouldn't have to learn spanish. The joke's on you. You're either too stupid to learn it or too stupid to realize that you can almost accidentally learn it. Either way, you're a patriot and a hero, and we're all impressed.



Seriously. I took Spanish for four years in high school because I was fluent after year one. It was an easy A for the next three. It's been ages since I've had to use it, but I'm pretty positive a month with native speakers would have me more or less fluent again.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:37 am to
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Most of these incoming "refugees" have no interest in assimilating nor learning to speak English. They want the culture to change to adjust to them.


What basis do you have for this claim? All studies indicate rapid assimilation and loss of bilingualism by Hispanics within 2 or less generations.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:39 am to
Roger, I'm assuming this scenario would happen only with a huge increase in minimum wage, right? Because that certainly hasn't been the case in past increases of minimum wage.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:41 am to
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Roger, I'm assuming this scenario would happen only with a huge increase in minimum wage, right? Because that certainly hasn't been the case in past increases of minimum wage.



Not sure. What's a huge increase?
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:42 am to
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You do realize that every time the minimum wage is increased the number of working poor also increases.


You know I've never seen any data that says that. You have a link?
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:46 am to
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Not sure. What's a huge increase?


Certainly not the often discussed $15 per hour. I'd assumed you meant a much larger increase due to your descriptor of "enough to really make a difference".
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:52 am to
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Certainly not the often discussed $15 per hour.


I'd say doubling the min. wage easily qualifies.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:46 am to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64587 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:48 am to
In most major cities and even smaller urban areas there are in fact bilingual signs which is telling me assimilation is occurring but in the opposite direction you might believe.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 5:39 am to
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Seriously. I took Spanish for four years in high school because I was fluent after year one. It was an easy A for the next three. It's been ages since I've had to use it, but I'm pretty positive a month with native speakers would have me more or less fluent again.
Commie bastard.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42517 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:17 am to
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They are basically trying to take us to one party rule. Obama and Co. believe all these new citizens will vote Democrat. That is what is going on here.

There is no doubt of that = for the past 6 decades nothing the DEM party has done has been about anything but abolishing political opposition.

They really don't care about anything but raw political power. Pandering to the most vulnerable and uneducated masses is their route to that goal.

We might as well allow the 'citizens' of the world vote = anything to overwhelm any remaining spirit of what America once was, and was intended to be.

Third world status is fine with DEMs - as long as THEY are in control of the political power.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57243 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:42 am to
quote:

quote:

quote: If you raise min. wage enough to actually make a difference it will lead to an increase in unemployment.


Why?


Someone's never stepped foot in an economics class.

This is literally macro-economics 101 and a scenario almost every Econ student is stepped through.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:17 am to
So let me get this straight:

We have the lowest workforce participation rate virtually ever.
We have a lot of college grads who have trouble finding jobs in their field of study ( because a lot have been sold a bill of goods about the crap they studied to prop up the liberal education cartel but that's another thread).
We have more people on assistance than ever before.
We, like everybody else in the world, are facing an ongoing problem of finding something for low-skilled people to do as automation replaces more and more of them.


The "solution" is to allow millions who are not qualified for anything other than manual labor to flood in and we'll fix any problems that causes by raising the minimum raise.

Good fricking God.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:22 am to
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So let me get this straight:

We have the lowest workforce participation rate virtually ever.
We have a lot of college grads who have trouble finding jobs in their field of study ( because a lot have been sold a bill of goods about the crap they studied to prop up the liberal education cartel but that's another thread).
We have more people on assistance than ever before.
We, like everybody else in the world, are facing an ongoing problem of finding something for low-skilled people to do as automation replaces more and more of them.


The "solution" is to allow millions who are not qualified for anything other than manual labor to flood in and we'll fix any problems that causes by raising the minimum raise.


Pretty much nailed it, except you forgot that there will be unicorns and rainbows in every neighborhood.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:23 am to
quote:

The "solution" is to allow millions who are not qualified for anything other than manual labor to flood in and we'll fix any problems that causes by raising the minimum raise.


I am against granting blanket amnesty, but lets be real here, all of these people that are having difficulty finding jobs aren't going to take minimum wage, manual labor jobs.


Btw, on what authority can Obama grant Amnesty?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:32 am to
Yes, and many more than 5 million.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:33 am to
On what authority can he keep changing Obamacare? He just issues executive orders and his minions enforce them. Who is going to stop him?
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:04 am to
I don't see why not, I mean who's gonna stop him? Putin?
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:36 am to
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