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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:53 pm to MISISIPICOAST
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That's the one that would have sent him to the IR in the NFL!
LB would have broke him in half
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:11 pm to Iona Fan Man
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LB would have broke him in half
So, he would have gained 4-5 yards because the first guy (say sherman) would have tackled him.
Sounds like that happened to Sproles a whole lot and he was fine.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:23 pm to htran90
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Sproles a whole lot and he was fine.
not comparable as sproles was a runningback(built 5'6 180+)...cooks is a wr 5'10 180.
he's at best, a weaker percy harvin
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:25 pm to Iona Fan Man
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not comparable as sproles was a runningback(built 5'6 180+)...cooks is a wr 5'10 180.
he's at best, a weaker percy harvin
Djax got lit up a whole lot and he's still in the league putting up monster numbers.
Continue to troll more please, I find you entertaining.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:42 pm to htran90
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Djax got lit up a whole lot
he plays way on the outside, he doesn't go over the middle.
because of this
and don't say steve smith, he's an inch shorter and 15 lbs stronger
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:54 pm to Iona Fan Man
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steve smith, he's an inch shorter and 15 lbs stronger
What does 15 lbs stronger mean?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:55 pm to THRILLHO
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What does 15 lbs stronger mean?
muscle meat, not bone or fat, as he's shorter but heavier
at combine he benched 22 times to cooks 16 times
being an inch shorter and benching 37% more....ain't comparable
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:09 am to THRILLHO
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THRILLHO
Djax is a deep threat, we have that in Stills
we want a lance Moore/Sproles Hybrid
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20+ yard targets
DeSean Jackson PHI 31%
42 player Average NFL 18%
Lance Moore NO 10%
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10-19 yard targets
Marques Colston NO 42%
42 player Average NFL 30%
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0-9 yard targets
Lance Moore NO 57%
cooks will be IMO a short option....is that wrong?
Stills 20 ypc average is great, but that's just the beginning
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The 70 percent catch rate Kenny Stills put up as a rookie is even more impressive when you consider that no player in this sample had a higher average depth of target (aDOT). Of his 50 targets, 15 had a depth of at least 20 yards. Stills caught six for 340 yards and five scores. On targets inside 20 yards, he caught a ridiculous 29 of 35 targets (83 percent). Stills only dropped one pass on the season.
he's your outside guy
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:20 am to Iona Fan Man
In what world are we limited to a certain number of deep threats?
If Stills is so great and Cooks has the speed to blow off the top and get behind safeties, that leaves....
Oh my, your recently 10mil/yr TE wide open in the middle along with the old trusty Colston.
Hey, wait that's right, it could even open your running game a bit more and maybe toss a few deep balls that way.
Remember the time we had a healthy henderson and a before-SD meachem?
If Stills is so great and Cooks has the speed to blow off the top and get behind safeties, that leaves....
Oh my, your recently 10mil/yr TE wide open in the middle along with the old trusty Colston.
Hey, wait that's right, it could even open your running game a bit more and maybe toss a few deep balls that way.
Remember the time we had a healthy henderson and a before-SD meachem?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:28 am to htran90
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In what world are we limited to a certain number of deep threats?
what's Brees' avg per attempt, and what does that tell you about trend and tendency?
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Oh my, your recently 10mil/yr TE wide open in the middle along with the old trusty Colston
possession receivers are a neccessity to sustain drives, especially if you historically have had porous defs
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it could even open your running game a bit more
with who running through it?
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Remember the time we had a healthy henderson and a before-SD meachem?
and no one was scared of them and one would show up every other week or three(not 1st round trade up material)
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:59 am to Iona Fan Man
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what's Brees' avg per attempt, and what does that tell you about trend and tendency?
7.9 Y/A, tells me he's pretty up there. Usually top 5 in that category.
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possession receivers are a neccessity to sustain drives, especially if you historically have had porous defs
Yeah, what did not having more than 1 deep threat do last year for us? Oh wait, stalled drives. What did having a ton of possession receivers do for us? A lot of overall yards, but some drives were stalled because all safeties needed to do was stay close to the LOS.
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with who running through it?
This is how I love feeding the trolls to help your self esteem, with the same two RBs that carried us to our first road playoff victory against a stout run defense and if it wasn't for a bunch of botched FG kicks and a rare fumble in the 2nd game, we may have been lifting up a 2nd trophy.
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and no one was scared of them and one would show up every other week or three(not 1st round trade up material)
Oh really? Because in 2009, those two scrubs accounted for:
96 receptions, 1526 yards, and 15.9. #1 ranked offense, #6 ranked run offense, and #4 ranked passing offense.
Oh yeah, in 2011 when we had our arguably BEST offense ever with the emergence of graham, getting a playmaker in sproles, and those two same scrubs still accounted for:
72 receptions, 1123 yards, and 15.6 avg. #1 ranked offense, #6 ranked run offense, and #1 ranked passing offense.
But sure, I'll just feed your boredom a bit more because I needed a break to help the needy.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:17 am to htran90
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2009, those two scrubs accounted for:
96 receptions, 1526 yards
so Malcolm Floyd and Chris Chamber in SD, Earl Bennett and Devin Hester in CHI, Patrick Creighton and Roy Williams in Dallas.....dime a dozen "never were's"...what's your point? You can only get that crap production by drafting an ill suited WR in the first?
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:29 am to Iona Fan Man
So how is Cooks ill suited when we haven't even seen what CSP is gonna use him for.
Oh why?
Because he's too frail and small?
Because he's too slow in pads?
Because he's too one dimensional?
Because he's too [insert your next excuse here]?
Cmon man, troll a bit harder. I need something to keep me up.
Oh why?
Because he's too frail and small?
Because he's too slow in pads?
Because he's too one dimensional?
Because he's too [insert your next excuse here]?
Cmon man, troll a bit harder. I need something to keep me up.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:59 am to ClientNumber9
quote:Pretty much.
He's just trolling
Keep in mind, this is the same guy that said there's a 50% chance the Denver Broncos cut Peyton Manning mid-season in 2014.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:16 am to htran90
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So how is Cooks ill suited when we haven't even seen what CSP is gonna use him for.
Oh why?
any history of small wr development or success from either the WRC, OC, or HC?
who are you hoping BC will be....which WR's body of work do you believe he will mimic?
1st round WR's that work are dynasty players...10 years of production....you really see that for cooks?
Sproles/Moore replacement could have been De'Anthony Thomas in the 4th round....which I would be excited about. Cooks was a wasted pick, he won't be of much value to the team.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:19 am to TTsTowel
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50% chance the Denver Broncos cut Peyton Manning mid-season in 2014.
before the end of the season
yes, being the history of regression of elite numbers off of CAREER spikes later in career life. He wont be worth the money due if on roster, he will be released 50/50.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 2:21 am
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:39 am to Iona Fan Man
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before the end of the season
yes, being the history of regression of elite numbers off of CAREER spikes later in career life. He wont be worth the money due if on roster, he will be released 50/50.
...what?
Cmon man, I said troll harder so I can stay UP.
He'll never be released.
As for Cooks,
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any history of small wr development or success from either the WRC, OC, or HC?
who are you hoping BC will be....which WR's body of work do you believe he will mimic?
1st round WR's that work are dynasty players...10 years of production....you really see that for cooks?
Sproles/Moore replacement could have been De'Anthony Thomas in the 4th round....which I would be excited about. Cooks was a wasted pick, he won't be of much value to the team.
Give the history of small players drafted/picked up in UDFA by this regime. Give me the history of small players in the past 8 years and their production.
Lance Moore was a 5'9 nobody going from squad to squad until CSP came here. Bush and Sproles had their best statistical receiving yardage season under CSP.
There are so many 1st rounders that don't even contribute to their teams. You make it sound like Cooks was a top 5 pick. The guy was a 20th overall pick that we hopped to get so Philly couldn't get him. Smith, Djax, Cobb, Garcon, Hilton, Jennings, and Austin were all relatively small speedsters and thus far they've contributed to their teams a good bit. Some were 1st, some were 2nd, some were 3rd, etc, but none of them had the production and combine #s that Cooks put up.
DaT and Dri Archer may not even be more than situational players similar to Dexter McCluster to their respective teams. I'll bet $1000 Cooks produces better numbers than those two COMBINED.
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:14 am to htran90
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Cmon man, I said troll harder so I can stay UP.
He'll never be released.
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Signed a five-year, $96 million contract. The deal includes $18 million guaranteed -- Manning's 2012 base salary. The guarantees can rise to $60 million (Manning's 2013-2014 base salaries) if he passes a physical on March 13 of 2013 (He did). Manning's fourth-year salary becomes guaranteed if on roster at end of year three, and his fifth-year salary becomes guaranteed if on roster at end of year four. 2014: $15 million, 2015-2016: $19 million
if production falls drastically off, no thoughts of "He'll do better next year", he'll have to be released as money better spent luring Andy Dalton or securing other positions. He may opt to retire instead of getting the axe.
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Lance Moore was a 5'9 nobody going from squad to squad until CSP came here. Bush and Sproles had their best statistical receiving yardage season under CSP.
yet no season worth a 1st round pick
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There are so many 1st rounders that don't even contribute to their teams
list of 1st round WRs since 2010(unless you think it'll take Cooks past his rookie contract to contribute)
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2010
Demaryius Thomas
Dez Bryant
2011
A. J. Green
Julio Jones
Jonathan Baldwin
2012
Justin Blackmon
Michael Floyd
Kendall Wright
A. J. Jenkins
2013
Tavon Austin
DeAndre Hopkins
Cordarrelle Patterson
which BOLD is cooks like, which non-bold is cooks like?
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