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re: Coach Miles educates Greg McElroy on ESPN Car Wash today....Now UPDATED w/ VIDEO
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:02 am to Austin Cajun
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:02 am to Austin Cajun
I love Les but personally think this was kind of silly. It should be a bit beneath him to let someone in the media, especially this guy, affect him. Feels to me kind of like McElroy won ultimately. That's just my opinion though.
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:04 am to adamb2151
I tend to agree.
I think people on here are getting way too happy about it and gleeful for no reason.
I'd rather Les kick arse on the field and shut up the dicks in the media that way.
I think people on here are getting way too happy about it and gleeful for no reason.
I'd rather Les kick arse on the field and shut up the dicks in the media that way.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:08 am to adamb2151
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I love Les but personally think this was kind of silly. It should be a bit beneath him to let someone in the media, especially this guy, affect him. Feels to me kind of like McElroy won ultimately. That's just my opinion though.
I can understand that side of it, but Les perfectly elocuted what most of LSU faithful have known for years. There's not many coaches that would even have the balls to say what he said. Basically, only Les Miles could pull this off.
He is our advocate, and said what needed to be said with class and dignity.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:09 am to adamb2151
a quick statement to set the record straight was appropriate. Don't be fooled, the statement was also meant for many rantards.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:11 am to White Shadeaux
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I'd rather Les kick arse on the field and shut up the dicks in the media that way.
He's done that for 9 years here and still gets no respect at all. What he did yesterday was needed, and awesome.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:13 am to Joe Mantegna
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He's done that for 9 years here and still gets no respect at all. What he did yesterday was needed, and awesome.
+1000
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:15 am to Joe Mantegna
Can you imagine if the rant was around when Skip Bertman was in the dugout?
"Boy, I don't really think Skip should be talking about Starkville like that. Class and dignity. blah blah blah."
Or if LSU had hired Spurrier in his prime?
"I can't believe Coach would say that about Coach Stalling's program. Don't want to fire them up or give them any bulletin board material."
Sports fans are so stupidly milquetoast it is saddening.
"Boy, I don't really think Skip should be talking about Starkville like that. Class and dignity. blah blah blah."
Or if LSU had hired Spurrier in his prime?
"I can't believe Coach would say that about Coach Stalling's program. Don't want to fire them up or give them any bulletin board material."
Sports fans are so stupidly milquetoast it is saddening.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:23 am to LSU Patrick
What most people don't get is this.
That quote is like poetry.
It goes far beyond McELroy.
It holds valuable lessons in the following arena
:
Hard Work does not transfer from person to person.
Legacies are built; not handed down.
It also tells someone; if you may want to achieve, that if you want something great, you have to work for it, because you won't get it simply by association. Think of a family business. It is not successful because of the Name, it is successful because of the work done by the people on the job. Think 'Horrible Bosses.'
That quote is much bigger then the sport of football.
It wasn't an attack, more of a direct form of educating and informing.
It's like a poem, the more you read the words, the more layers of that truth start to come out.
I'll say again, you could have given me two weeks to come up with a paragraph that fully incapsulates the term winning, and it wouldn't come to close to the bomb that Les dropped, on camera...no script.
That quote is like poetry.
It goes far beyond McELroy.
It holds valuable lessons in the following arena
:
Hard Work does not transfer from person to person.
Legacies are built; not handed down.
It also tells someone; if you may want to achieve, that if you want something great, you have to work for it, because you won't get it simply by association. Think of a family business. It is not successful because of the Name, it is successful because of the work done by the people on the job. Think 'Horrible Bosses.'
That quote is much bigger then the sport of football.
It wasn't an attack, more of a direct form of educating and informing.
It's like a poem, the more you read the words, the more layers of that truth start to come out.
I'll say again, you could have given me two weeks to come up with a paragraph that fully incapsulates the term winning, and it wouldn't come to close to the bomb that Les dropped, on camera...no script.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:28 am to idoubleu
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idoubleu
I like this guy!
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:31 am to idoubleu
Well said.
What was so stupid about McElroy's original comment is he doesn't even understand the history of the very place he went to school. Why didn't Dubose, Fran, and Shula benefit from Stallings establishing the mindset, which was established by Bryant.
The thought that "LSU has sustained success because Nick Saban established the mindset" shouldn't ever occur to him, because the very school he attended proves that type of ridiculous line of thinking wrong straight away.
Petrino wins big at Louisville. After the fact, they don't really achieve that level of success. Same at West Virginia with Rich Rod, USC with Carroll, the list goes on. It isn't about places, it's about people.
What was so stupid about McElroy's original comment is he doesn't even understand the history of the very place he went to school. Why didn't Dubose, Fran, and Shula benefit from Stallings establishing the mindset, which was established by Bryant.
The thought that "LSU has sustained success because Nick Saban established the mindset" shouldn't ever occur to him, because the very school he attended proves that type of ridiculous line of thinking wrong straight away.
Petrino wins big at Louisville. After the fact, they don't really achieve that level of success. Same at West Virginia with Rich Rod, USC with Carroll, the list goes on. It isn't about places, it's about people.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:36 am to JermStone
Well Said....
quote:
What most people don't get is this. That quote is like poetry. It goes far beyond McELroy. It holds valuable lessons in the following arena : Hard Work does not transfer from person to person. Legacies are built; not handed down. It also tells someone; if you may want to achieve, that if you want something great, you have to work for it, because you won't get it simply by association. Think of a family business. It is not successful because of the Name, it is successful because of the work done by the people on the job. Think 'Horrible Bosses.' That quote is much bigger then the sport of football. It wasn't an attack, more of a direct form of educating and informing. It's like a poem, the more you read the words, the more layers of that truth start to come out. I'll say again, you could have given me two weeks to come up with a paragraph that fully incapsulates the term winning, and it wouldn't come to close to the bomb that Les dropped, on camera...no script.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:42 am to idoubleu
I agree with you. Les let it loose perfectly and it was well said. It was a beautiful thing, particularly the lean and the eyes. Beautiful.
ESPN got it and that's why they cut off the video they put up from the show. McElroy got it. LSU and Bama fans got it. The rest of the world saw it as an explanation of winning and didn't get the aim of it.
ESPN got it and that's why they cut off the video they put up from the show. McElroy got it. LSU and Bama fans got it. The rest of the world saw it as an explanation of winning and didn't get the aim of it.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:52 am to idoubleu
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idoubleu
LOVE THIS
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:32 am to idoubleu
Perfect summary and well put. What Leslie said does go beyond the football field and I think what he teaches young men in his program also goes beyond their playing time.
For those who think this was stupid to say or beneath coach to say. How would you like to see that if you had a stud son who was the next Leonard Fournette?
I think the athletic department should put that clip on a loop and have it playing all around the athletic complex. Hell I have it book marked and will be listening to it regularly.
It was a great statement on winning I am talking Lombardi like it its simplicity yet depth about winning.
Seriously compare what coach said to:
“The achievements of an organization are the results of the combined effort of each individual.”
“In order to succeed, this group will need a singleness of purpose, they will need a dedication, and they will have to convince all of their prospects of the willingness to sacrifice.”
“Winning is a habit. Watch your thoughts, they become your beliefs. Watch your beliefs, they become your words. Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits, they become your character.”
What CLM said yesterday stacks up nicely...
"Winning is a thing that is inherent with how you were raised. It is something you carry with you for a lifetime, and to pretend that it is brought or deposited at a place and left – it is not. It is always carried with the participants and the people that are there – period. Just in discussion. "
For those who think this was stupid to say or beneath coach to say. How would you like to see that if you had a stud son who was the next Leonard Fournette?
I think the athletic department should put that clip on a loop and have it playing all around the athletic complex. Hell I have it book marked and will be listening to it regularly.
It was a great statement on winning I am talking Lombardi like it its simplicity yet depth about winning.
Seriously compare what coach said to:
“The achievements of an organization are the results of the combined effort of each individual.”
“In order to succeed, this group will need a singleness of purpose, they will need a dedication, and they will have to convince all of their prospects of the willingness to sacrifice.”
“Winning is a habit. Watch your thoughts, they become your beliefs. Watch your beliefs, they become your words. Watch your words, they become your actions. Watch your actions, they become your habits. Watch your habits, they become your character.”
What CLM said yesterday stacks up nicely...
"Winning is a thing that is inherent with how you were raised. It is something you carry with you for a lifetime, and to pretend that it is brought or deposited at a place and left – it is not. It is always carried with the participants and the people that are there – period. Just in discussion. "
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:42 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:39 am to CarterWilson717
There's a misconception that a builder of a program is better than a maintainer of a program. There are several degrees of both. If u inherit a pretty stable program and make it better are u still just a "maintainer". Kinda hard to do much about what u inherit.
Some maintainers can only keep things together just enough to keep the job.
There are many builders who cant maintain? Why is that? What is missing flaw; that they dont have that maintainers do? Some coaches can turn a program around and get them good again but not be able to win the championship. What are they?
Call it what u want....
When you "maintain" a program at a high level for 10 years, u are an excellent leader and coach. Youve been tested by almost everything in 10 years, and youve proven to be able to make the necessary adjustments, maintain respect and keep people focused on winning football games.
This is not luck.
You either have these skills or you dont. After 10 years in the SEC west, Id say Miles has been plenty tested and he's still standing and prospering.
No one gives Miles a shred of credit about 'building' Okla St into a respectable program in what about the same time frame 4-5 years as his predecessor at LSU.
There's a few coaches that are just excellent coaches. The are the very top 10% of the profession. They will "find a way" to get it done with any program of similar resources.
Miles is one of these.
Some maintainers can only keep things together just enough to keep the job.
There are many builders who cant maintain? Why is that? What is missing flaw; that they dont have that maintainers do? Some coaches can turn a program around and get them good again but not be able to win the championship. What are they?
Call it what u want....
When you "maintain" a program at a high level for 10 years, u are an excellent leader and coach. Youve been tested by almost everything in 10 years, and youve proven to be able to make the necessary adjustments, maintain respect and keep people focused on winning football games.
This is not luck.
You either have these skills or you dont. After 10 years in the SEC west, Id say Miles has been plenty tested and he's still standing and prospering.
No one gives Miles a shred of credit about 'building' Okla St into a respectable program in what about the same time frame 4-5 years as his predecessor at LSU.
There's a few coaches that are just excellent coaches. The are the very top 10% of the profession. They will "find a way" to get it done with any program of similar resources.
Miles is one of these.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:56 am to LSUANDY25
Let's be honest here.
Everyone lauding Les now will be posting "Les sucks, he needs to go!" immediately after the first loss.
Everyone lauding Les now will be posting "Les sucks, he needs to go!" immediately after the first loss.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:06 pm to White Shadeaux
Everyone lauding Les now will be posting "Les sucks, he needs to go!" immediately after the first loss
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No sir, not correct. Obviously, reading is a bit difficult for u.
If u think Les making a point to McElroy on live TV vs after the segment, was luck, then stay in the right lane.
One of the all time great quotes delivered at the exact right time.
He's one in a million, you dont fire those. U find out how to keep them happy. That's your only job without losing your own respect, like someplaces.
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No sir, not correct. Obviously, reading is a bit difficult for u.
If u think Les making a point to McElroy on live TV vs after the segment, was luck, then stay in the right lane.
One of the all time great quotes delivered at the exact right time.
He's one in a million, you dont fire those. U find out how to keep them happy. That's your only job without losing your own respect, like someplaces.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:07 pm to White Shadeaux
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I'd rather Les kick arse on the field
What do you think Les has doing since he got here if not kicking arse?
You comment is why LSU fans are sometimes seen as being delusional and out of touch with reality. I don't know of many BCS programs who has kicked arse more than LSU since 2005. Do you?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:14 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Go get 'em Les! Too bad you didn't tea bag that Gump!
Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:48 pm to Schmelly
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