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re: Elizabeth Warren's 11 Commandments of Progressivism

Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:48 pm to
Is this bitch Moses now?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

- "We believe that the Internet shouldn't be rigged to benefit big corporations, and that means real net neutrality."

- "We believe that immigration has made this country strong and vibrant, and that means reform."

- "We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth."


I agree with net neutrality as its what is stopping corporations like Comcast from fricking us over. I'm for net neutrality if we still have crony capitalism running wild. The Internet is a precious source and venue of free speech and free information.

I agree in spirit with immigration but I know damn well for a fact she means basically open up the borders and bring upon a floodgate of immigrants into this country that will break the middle class, tax us all beyond belief and send the welfare system and our money into collapse.

I support science as well and it needs to be protected and advanced but there have been way too many instances where liberals have been anti-science because it didn't fit their narrative and that destroys their credibility. Like agw for instance.

Everything she wrote is pure garbage not worth responding to. Democrats please run her so she can get her arse kicked. It's like republicans running Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin at once. America does not want an extreme left wing nutjob or one from the right either for that matter.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:50 pm to
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Agree. You can start with the science that says ethanol is an awful policy, from both an economic and an environmental standpoint.




That's a good example of progs and liberals being anti-science.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70869 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:53 pm to
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That's a good example of progs and liberals being anti-science.


The anti-vaccine dullards are another one.
Posted by Spawn
Berlin
Member since Oct 2006
7048 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:54 pm to
I would have serious reservations about voting for her.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9414 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:55 pm to
Hilary will not make it out of primary season if Warren runs.
Posted by NWHoustonTiger
Cypress, TX
Member since Sep 2010
655 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:58 pm to
In a sense, I would like to see Warren as the Democratic nominee in 2016. Warren, more so than Hillary Clinton, would shift the election's focus from personality/biography to ideology (even though she, like Hillary, would be vying to be the first female US President). We really haven't had an ideologically-focused election since 1980 or 84. I would argue that every election since then has been decided more by "likability" than anything else. Yes, Barack Obama is a "movement" progressive, but his personality & biography were what won the elections.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21440 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:58 pm to
She lives in fantasy land. The papoose is on the loose.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48294 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 2:59 pm to
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That's a good example of progs and liberals being anti-science.


Or their opposition to nuclear energy
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70869 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:01 pm to
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I would like to see Warren as the Democratic nominee in 2016.


I wouldn't. That would be the ultimate hanging curveball, and the GOP would still find a way to swing and miss.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:38 pm to
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- "We believe in science, and that means that we have a responsibility to protect this Earth."

The tuba beacon just went on. Well, after the Golden Corral buffet beacon goes off.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:43 pm to
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- "We believe that students are entitled to get an education without being crushed by debt."


No one forces students to attend private schools that charge 40 grand a semester. Anyone can get a quality education for relatively cheap, they may just not have the flashiest name on the diploma.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:47 pm to
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No one forces students to attend private schools that charge 40 grand a semester. Anyone can get a quality education for relatively cheap, they may just not have the flashiest name on the diploma.


Or shitty degrees, in shitty fields, where they can't get a job that will pay their bills...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259906 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:48 pm to
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This pisses me off more than any of the rest. Last I checked nobody is stopping anyone from doing anything to their body.



Yet these idiots believe otherwise because they think they are entitled to birth control.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:02 pm to
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I would have serious reservations about voting for her.

I saw it.
Posted by lsuprof
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
501 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:13 pm to
Of course, most of these commandments are ridiculous. If she believes in science, as she purports to in Commandment #2, she wouldn't be advocating these policies as a means of creating a sustainable society.

The thing that gets me about this is the last item,in which she characterizes the philosophy of conservatives in a way that reflects pure uninformed prejudice. If someone made a blanket negative statement about a group of people with whom Elizabeth Warren agreed, she would be screaming about prejudice and bigotry.

There are no doubt some individuals on the left and right that take the view that "I got mine. The rest of you are on your own." (This is not a view limited to conservatives.) But by and large conservatives take the view that the free market creates an incentive system that is both fair and lifts society in general to a higher economic level. Warren wants to punish the productive elements of society. I suppose that haters are gonna hate.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 4:18 pm to
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I suppose that haters are gonna hate.

Here's the hater in me hating on Warren:

These "commandments" show her right in her wheelhouse, as the left's mirror image of Sarah Palin- expertly delivering shallow, populist, garbage rhetoric while the true believers swoon.
Posted by Semaphore
a former French colony
Member since Jan 2013
275 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 6:56 pm to
Nothing new here. That's the same old lib handbook with few new words thrown in.

It's been around for 100 years or more. She's thinking inside the same old musty box.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:11 am to
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old musty box


Describes EW to a T.

LC
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14731 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

- "We believe that no one should work full-time and still live in poverty, and that means raising the minimum wage."


The minimum wage was started by progressive economists to cull the "unemployable" from the workforce. They knew that unemployment would rise because of it. At the time of its conception, they knew the hardest hit would be to minorities and immigrants.

And what do they think will happen if they raise it? Same thing. But hey, having more government dependents is the goal, isn't it?
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