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re: Should the Bloods be considered a terrorist organization?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:40 pm to Easy
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:40 pm to Easy
quote:
That's another link with cops claiming that's what bloods have said. I'm not buying it.
Yeah, the evil police just made the whole thing up so they can kill Bloods for no reason.
You are sick, dude.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:53 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:
Yeah, the evil police just made the whole thing up so they can kill Bloods for no reason.
You are sick, dude.
No sicker than you are. You're disgusted at the thought of the police making something up so they can unlawfully kill Bloods, yet you are advocating for the federal goverment to unlawfully kill american citizens.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:03 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
No, I'm not. If they kill american citizens they should be tried in a court of law.
I never said anything about killing them.
When the Bloods threatened to kill police officers who are the country's authority figures that protect the citizens then they have stepped over the line and are now domestic terrorists as defined in the FBI link I provided.
They should round up all of the Bloods.
quote:
Why do you hate the constitution so much?
It's constitutional and legal to arrest all of the members of a group that threatens to kill someone.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:05 pm to DawgfaninCa
Except that's not what you advocated for so stop crawfishing now. You said "use armed forces and destroy them".
Now you are saying that means legal due process? Hahaha
Now you are saying that means legal due process? Hahaha
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:12 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Except that's not what you advocated for so stop crawfishing now. You said "use armed forces and destroy them".
That simply means use the armed forces to capture them all and if the Bloods want to resist then the armed forces should use whatever force is necessary to capture them.
That will destroy the Bloods once and for all.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:19 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
No sicker than you are. You're disgusted at the thought of the police making something up so they can unlawfully kill Bloods, yet you are advocating for the federal goverment to unlawfully kill american citizens.
Not as sick as you are. You're disgusted at the thought of the police not making something up.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:20 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:
Not as sick as you are. You're disgusted at the thought of the police not making something up.
No lol
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:29 pm to DawgfaninCa
I'm not buying that the only choices are that it's completely true or that the police made it up.
My way of thinking is that it's likely that none of the bloods actually went to the police to share such murderous plans. That the police in fact got this information secondhand. If so, to me that's just a rumor and I'm not buying it. Maybe some blood actually said something like that but people say lots of shite. Especially when they're angry, drunk, or high.
My way of thinking is that it's likely that none of the bloods actually went to the police to share such murderous plans. That the police in fact got this information secondhand. If so, to me that's just a rumor and I'm not buying it. Maybe some blood actually said something like that but people say lots of shite. Especially when they're angry, drunk, or high.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:31 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
No lol
Sure you are and your words prove it.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:33 pm to DawgfaninCa
You sucked on the dawg rant and you suck now. Stop starting threads. tia.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:18 pm to DawgfaninCa
Lets try and define terrorism first. This is the best one I could find.
Added to this
1) A Terrorist cannot be a autonomous nation state even if they do exact the same things as terrorist.
2) Profit can't be your motive even if you do the same things as terrorist. This separates terrorist from gangs/mercs.
3) Must portray their act as some sort of greater good for society. (This starts leaking into freedom fighter) You cannot consider yourself a terrorist to be a terrorist.
The Bloods can't be terrorist in this particular instance because they aren't targeting non-combatants. The police can defend themselves.
When The Bloods murder people, they aren't trying to achieve any political result or greater goal for society. Killing people who get in their way, is just a part of the job.
This is my best stab at the question.
quote:
The tactic of intentionally targeting non-combatants [or non-combatant property, when significantly related to life and security] with lethal or severe violence … meant to produce political results via the creation of fear
Added to this
1) A Terrorist cannot be a autonomous nation state even if they do exact the same things as terrorist.
2) Profit can't be your motive even if you do the same things as terrorist. This separates terrorist from gangs/mercs.
3) Must portray their act as some sort of greater good for society. (This starts leaking into freedom fighter) You cannot consider yourself a terrorist to be a terrorist.
The Bloods can't be terrorist in this particular instance because they aren't targeting non-combatants. The police can defend themselves.
When The Bloods murder people, they aren't trying to achieve any political result or greater goal for society. Killing people who get in their way, is just a part of the job.
This is my best stab at the question.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:48 am to DawgfaninCa
The bloods and crips is so mid 90's to early 2000's
then we had ms13 which is a dying fad
then we had ms13 which is a dying fad
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:26 am to DawgfaninCa
No. The Bloods and Crips are Community Organizers.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:29 am to Zach
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:54 pm to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 7/19/14 at 3:54 pm to CBLSU316
Just be really careful before you start calling domestic groups terrorists.
This is the kind of legal creep the government loves. Calling something a terrorist organization gives the government lots more leeway to investigate.
The government wants nothing more than for its own citizens to say yes, call this group a terrorist organization because then it will start calling everything a terrorist organization.
There is no way the bloods should be called a terrorist organization. They are a criminal one and they are given the same rights and protections afforded under the constitution as every other american.
And everyone here should agree with this. Just like everyone should agree that free speech is ok even if it is a speech that you yourself strongly disagree with.
This is the kind of legal creep the government loves. Calling something a terrorist organization gives the government lots more leeway to investigate.
The government wants nothing more than for its own citizens to say yes, call this group a terrorist organization because then it will start calling everything a terrorist organization.
There is no way the bloods should be called a terrorist organization. They are a criminal one and they are given the same rights and protections afforded under the constitution as every other american.
And everyone here should agree with this. Just like everyone should agree that free speech is ok even if it is a speech that you yourself strongly disagree with.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:07 pm to TT9
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You sucked on the dawg rant and you suck now. Stop starting threads. tia.
You sucked my dick on the dawg rant and you suck my dick here.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:17 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:Yes, and therefore it is the job of the U.S. military to go into and wipe out entire cities in which they operate.
Should the Bloods be considered a terrorist organization?
If your relative or loved one should become "collateral damage" just think of it as an act of war.
War is hell! 'Murika!
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:40 pm to thetempleowl
quote:
There is no way the bloods should be called a terrorist organization. They are a criminal one and they are given the same rights and protections afforded under the constitution as every other american.
And everyone here should agree with this.
I disagree.
According to the FBI website, " 'Domestic terrorism' means activities with the following three characteristics:
* Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
* Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
* Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S."
The Bloods are doing all of those so they are committing domestic terrorism which makes them a terrorist organization.
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