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re: Grigsby on Jindal's common core reversal
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:03 pm to I B Freeman
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:03 pm to I B Freeman
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This deserves a thread of it's own.
Well, clearly YOU think so.
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:03 pm to I B Freeman
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Grisby was the go to man for Jindal in raising money. He is trampling him. This is really a big slap.
Anyone that gets near the Jindal bus is subject to getting thrown under it. I would have thought that by now this was common knowledge.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:04 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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do you ask this in the 20-per-page anti-Obama threads?
You're in Atlanta. STFU.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:48 pm to DonChowder
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It's Grigsby not Grisby. And he's a really nice guy.
thanks for the correction. I think I have fixed it.
Yes he is a nice guy and a very accomplished man unlike most politicians.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:57 pm to Bard
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Anyone that gets near the Jindal bus is subject to getting thrown under it. I would have thought that by now this was common knowledge.
The point of the thread.
Mr. Grigsby obviously feels strongly about education and he supports common core.
He has invested a lot of money into helping Jindal and Jindal is slapping him in the face.
One has to wonder would you rather a man like Grigsby evaluate the need for Common Core standard testing or a career politician? Something to ponder.
I prefer no government schools but if we are too have them I think implementing common core standards is a good idea. Nothing I see mandates them except state law. I don't see any federal requirement for them nor do I see anyone forcing particular teaching methods and expenditures on schools. No doubt some school boards will blow a lot of money but the test I took represented skills that can be taught simply.
Go to this site and take the test too and tell me you would not support teaching third graders the skills represented in that test
LINK
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:57 pm to I B Freeman
Simple. Many businesses stand to make a lot from CC. They aren't happy. That hardly means "the business community" is against Jindal.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 3:58 pm to UL-SabanRival
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Simple. Many businesses stand to make a lot from CC. They aren't happy. That hardly means "the business community" is against Jindal.
Which member of LABI stands to make a lot of money? What part of Mr. Grigsby's company will make a lot of money if the state implements CC?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:19 pm to I B Freeman
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A group of 40 business
List the business names on the record so I can avoid them.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:36 pm to I B Freeman
Oh, okay. If no businesses are being negatively affected, why does Grigsby care? Why is his argument that business is harmed? He himself says they will lose money.
Maybe the two of you can straighten out your story before proceeding.
Maybe the two of you can straighten out your story before proceeding.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 4:39 pm to GumboPot
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Why do Louisiana businesses care whether or not Common Core is implemented in LA schools?
You need to have academic standards. If you just allow schools to teach based off the "curriculum we've always had," that's not good enough, considering how far behind we are on the international math and science scores. The business community understands that because they want an educated workforce.
I'm not saying Common Core is the answer, but there needs to be standards with benchmarks that apply to public schools, and the standards need to be risen once enough people start meeting them. A voluntary consortium doesn't sound like a bad idea.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:02 pm to maine82
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You need to have academic standards. If you just allow schools to teach based off the "curriculum we've always had," that's not good enough, considering how far behind we are on the international math and science scores. The business community understands that because they want an educated workforce.
I'm not saying Common Core is the answer, but there needs to be standards with benchmarks that apply to public schools, and the standards need to be risen once enough people start meeting them. A voluntary consortium doesn't sound like a bad ide
Lots of truth in that. Common core standards only apply to math and language BTW.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:12 pm to GumboPot
I agree with him, but Grisby is an egotistical a-hole.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:14 pm to FAF
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Common core is shite. No one is behind it.
Then you haven't met any Liberals or communists. Its worse than you can imagine.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:23 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Dozens of States signed on to Common Core before any standards were written.
Now that they see some of the written guides they want to postpone it.
Blaming Jindal is a joke. Bill Gates has poured $200 Million of his own money into this before anything was developed. What seems to be the rush for implementing CC ASAP?
They knew the standards because they were part of the process. Why do you think Jindal endorsed it to begin with?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 10:28 pm to CamdenTiger
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Common core is shite. No one is behind it.
Then you haven't met any Liberals or communists. Its worse than you can imagine.
Prove this. How can standards in math and language have anything to do with liberals???
There is no forced adoption of common core. It was not a federal government creation. That is just wrong.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 11:54 pm to I B Freeman
Weren't the states coerced into common core thru Obama's bailout? In simple terms...here states, adopt this and you'll get this much more money. Having the states compete for additional dollars depending on how good their implementation plans were, etc. It isn't surprising that the majority made a money grab while their respective economies and budgets were in the tank. Now that many have started to recover they don't need the money as bad and can afford to rethink whether it's a good fit.
The people pouring money into this have something to gain...ie, Bill Gates. That isn't always a bad thing, but knowing the reasons will shed light on whether it is really for the betterment of our kids and this nation's future.
The people pouring money into this have something to gain...ie, Bill Gates. That isn't always a bad thing, but knowing the reasons will shed light on whether it is really for the betterment of our kids and this nation's future.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:41 am to I B Freeman
So since he donated money he can now speak for the entire business community? There are obviously gonna be things they don't agree upon. I'm not sure why Mr. Grigsby thinks this will be the ultimate downfall of the state
My dad has 10 employees and he doesn't like common core. My mom has about 100 employees and thinks that kids should be teaching themselves how to do the math instead of having someone teach them what we all taught ourselves. I guess they are not part of the business community though
My dad has 10 employees and he doesn't like common core. My mom has about 100 employees and thinks that kids should be teaching themselves how to do the math instead of having someone teach them what we all taught ourselves. I guess they are not part of the business community though
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:01 am to Hammertime
My wife is a teacher. The problem with common core is not the standards or benchmarks. Those are a real positive of it.
The problem is how they want you to get there. Less instruction and more self learning and things like that. Plus the inability to challenge the truly gifted or accelerated students.
Give the teachers the benchmarks they have to reach with their classes, then let them go after it and sort it out at the end of the year how effective they are. But even then that doesn't begin to help the problem of discipline, parental involvement or care or even the rampant political issues in our schools.
The problem is how they want you to get there. Less instruction and more self learning and things like that. Plus the inability to challenge the truly gifted or accelerated students.
Give the teachers the benchmarks they have to reach with their classes, then let them go after it and sort it out at the end of the year how effective they are. But even then that doesn't begin to help the problem of discipline, parental involvement or care or even the rampant political issues in our schools.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:14 am to I B Freeman
Common core is complete shite.
Look at how many other governors have rejected it or reversed it.
Look at how many other governors have rejected it or reversed it.
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:28 am to Jarlaxle
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1 business man, 2 bought and paid for civic associations and 37 leftist teachers that would probably be fired if not for tenure.
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List the business names on the record so I can avoid them
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" A group of 40 business, civic and education leaders"
1 business man, 2 bought and paid for civic associations and 37 leftist teachers that would probably be fired if not for tenure.
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