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re: Does Welter prove his haters wrong this season?

Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:52 am to
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:52 am to
wtf are you talking about?

Only schitck that is getting old is you fricking morons running your mouth about the same guy over and over and over.

You haven't seen anybody else play....that's the point I was making concerning qbs genius.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 7:55 am to
quote:

Jefferson took home the most prestigious of the many spring honors passed out, the Jim Taylor Award for leadership, effort and performance.


LoL

Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10024 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:05 am to
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wtf are you talking about?


You still coming on here running your mouth about JJ/LEE. It's over, they're gone. The QB who came after them is gone.

Let's support the players who are here and not tear down guys in the past.

I have stated many times I hope Welter has a good season. It would mean a tremendous improvement in our run defense. But until I see it, I'll continue to wonder what Beckwith would bring to the table.

You can't point to Welter winning an award from the coaches as a sign that he'll have a great season, and then laugh at the people who said the same things about Jefferson when he won the same award
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:17 am to
You should read harder to why those two former players were mentioned before you start whining.
JJ is one player among how many that have one that award?


Can't all be winners can they?

quote:

Let's support the players who are here and not tear down guys in the past

Know how I know you haven't read this thread?

Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10024 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:29 am to
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Know how I know you haven't read this thread?


I did read the thread, and there are some idiots here who hate Welter beyond reason. Most people just feel if he isn't performing up to standards, give one of the young guys a shot. Lamar was given a few opportunities last year and he didn't look noticeably different from Welter. I think SAM linebacker is a more natural position for Louis. I also saw where you admitted to being a troll on here, and I think it's time to let it go. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think you're a bigot. I think you know very well what you're doing, and it's time to let it go. Let's all move on and get ready for the 2014 Tigers. In Buga we trust
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:43 am to
He is enormously slow...90+% of the time, the play will end, and up trots #31....If he is bigger, he will be even slower. He may be smart and the "QB" they need to call the defense, but in totality he is a MAJOR handicap.

But, if Miles admires and kid, especially if he is an upper classman, he will play him no matter what, so get used to #31.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:55 am to
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But, if Miles admires and kid, especially if he is an upper classman, he will play him no matter what, so get used to #31.



Because Miles NEVER plays underclassmen, not even freshmen?
Now pick up the phone and call your mom and apologize for being such an embarrassment to her.
Posted by CaptainJ47
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
7353 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 8:57 am to
If memory serves me correct in the Notre Dame vs Redemptorist semifinal a few years ago Welter came from no where to stop Jeremy Hill on the one yard line on 4th and goal ending the game. I think the kid has what it takes and I hope he does it this year.
Posted by idoubleu
Member since Jul 2014
269 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:05 am to
It's a completely bogus to say we haven't seen these guys play. Prep footage matters. Why do you think everyone is LF7 crazy.

True, we haven't seen some of these guys play on Sat, but to pretend as though you can't see talent and potential from prep footage is a bogus arguement.

I can watch tape, and tell you that Diarse has no shot of keeping Quin off of the field.

Welters Prep footage is decent.
His play on the field has proven to be sub standard for a team seeking a top flight defense. One poster broke down his stats, and quite frankly, his lack of playmaking ability, TFL's, FF's, INT's, PD's, and solo tackles are pretty hard to argue against.

Maybe you think Hilliard is better than Fournette because Fournette hasn't played yet.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:35 am to
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LoL


You proved his point. Spring awards don't mean anything.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:56 am to
I know exactly why he posted it..... The point is it's one guy.
One guy out of how many won this award and wasn't up to snuff?


Actually it's impressive somebody would remember who won a post spring award 3-4 years ago.

Bravo.
Superfan
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57708 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:59 am to
There's some angry individuals in this thread. I'm sorry Mr. And Mrs. Welter
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:01 am to
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Actually it's impressive somebody would remember who won a post spring award 3-4 years ago.


It's pretty easy to google
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7962 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:18 am to
It's not about hate, that's totally ridiculous. It's about having eyeballs in ones head and actually seeing what's happening on the field.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:21 am to
Yeah if it means that much to you.
Posted by idoubleu
Member since Jul 2014
269 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:41 pm to
I'm pretty new to the board, so I just noticed how the top of the reply shows who you are responding to.

TigerLee

You said something in the realm of Welter winning a preseason award was something that angered me.
I'll say again, I have no problems with Welter other than his lack of production.

Simply because he is a Tiger, doesn't exempt him from srutiny and analysis.

It's like saying Jefferson was the best QB in LSU history, since he led us to the best season in LSU history (record wise, obviously no title).

Anyone with a working eye could spot that JJ was the glaring weakness on a great team. Despite the overall team success.

This is the position Welter is in my opinion.
I'll say again, I felt the same way about Barrow, only it's an irrelevant topic as he is no longer on the team.

In my opinion, Barrow was not an asset to our defense last year. He was an okay player, who made the tackles that you'd expect any LB to make, he never did anything to make saw, "Wow, Barrow is a Beast."

I want all of our players to do well, but that doesn't mean I blindly wish that they become standouts, after they start mulitple games, or even full seasons in which they show their mediocrity on the field.

Unbiased analysis has nothing to do with not supporting your team.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 12:57 pm to
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if Miles admires and kid, especially if he is an upper classman, he will play him no matter what, so get used to #31.


Anyone paying attention, and not just throwing out agenda BS, would know there are many, many examples of upper class guys sitting and watching Fr. or So. play.

I'm pretty sure our DC gets to play pretty much who he wants to play.

Posted by SouthdownsTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
631 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:04 pm to
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But, if Miles admires and kid, especially if he is an upper classman, he will play him no matter what, so get used to #31.


This may have been true just a few years back but certainly isn't the case anymore imo.

The attrition caused by so many underclassmen going to the NFL has forced the coaching staff to rethink this issue. They basically have no choice but to look at everybody available, including true freshman, equally and put the best guys out there regardless of age or class.

Who knows, maybe the new highly regarded LB from up north, Clifton Garrett, comes in this fall and takes the position.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19305 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:11 pm to
So a ranter watching tape is a lot better judge of talent than a position coach/HC/coordinator who sees said player every day live in practice, studies film of his practices by the hours, knows the player personally & professionally from a football perspective: he busts his arse every play, he KNOWS the plays, works hard to improve, etc. As this thread is bout Welters, I'll let Chief do his job with full faith that he knows what the hell he is doing. I rather doubt he's keeping a "substandard" player on the field. Idoublea, please go back to coaching your son's peewee team & let the professionals do their job.
Posted by idoubleu
Member since Jul 2014
269 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 1:42 pm to
So by your logic, coaches or incapable of error. If this was the case, we would go undefeated every season.
As they would always have the perfect players, in the perfect position, making perfect plays.

Coaches get fired every year for not doing what needs to be done (schematically or personsel wise).

I am beyond grateful, and feel very fortunate to have a guy like the Chavis, but to think that any coach is 100% correct, simply because he is in the position of power, is beyond flawed thinking.


It you want to believethat coaches don't makers mistakes, feel free. I called that wearing the "shades."

Question: Do you really think Chavis is incapable of error?

Lets respond with some legit reasoning. Try not to be a "keyboard gangsta."


Keyboard gangsta= someone who slings unnecessary insults on the web, as if it makes their argument more valid.


P.S.
I am a Saints fan, that truly believes that the Saints would be unbeatable if they balanced their offense more (we often pass to the point of predictability).

Who am I to question a Super Bowl Winning coach.

Only problem is, after most losses, Payton comes to the podium (or to the weekly press conference) and says, it's my fault. I have to do a better job of staying with a balanced attack.

Point being, even coaches admit their own flaws.
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 1:50 pm
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