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re: Would the Pelicans have been better off with Nerlens Noel?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:14 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:14 pm to Lester Earl
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he cant shoot
He can't shoot from deep right now, but I thnk he will have a higher FG% than Lillard has... Which is 42.7%. Lillard is a better shooter than Payton, but he also settles for the 3 way more than he should. Lillard averaged 15.9 shot attempts per game, and 6.8 were from 3. That's a bunch.
Plus I think Payton averages more assists as well. Lillard has Aldridge, Batum, and Wes Matthews on the floor with his most of every game, and he averages the same amount assists as Joakim Noah. If Lillard would shoot a couple times fewer per game and get his assists to around 7-8 per game, he would be better and so would the Blazers. I actually think Lillard is better suited as a scoring 2 guard rather than a true PG.
And I think Payton will be a really good rebounding PG and 1 of the top defensive PGs in the nba. I don't know what his ppg will be, but I'm fairly confident that he will have better FG% than Lillard. If I had to guess a stat line for Payton it would be like 15ppg, 7 assists, 5 rebs, 2 steals and shooting 45%. If he improves as a shooter, he could be a very good player. I def see some similarities between Elfrid and Gary Payton, not saying he will be as good as Gary, but I do see some similarities.
That said, gimme Jrue Holiday all day every day right now. Payton could be great, Payton could suck. Holiday is a proven all star caliber PG and just made 24 years old.
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 8:18 pm
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 8:43 pm to KG5989
Honestly I love our team...X factor is EG and his thieving azz. If he ever suits up long enough to get traded or be useful...this team can go places.
besides all this talk about who do we want to be... the spurs have pop, alot of the teams mentioned here...have never won a title...OKC, Cleveland, Orlando, Portland, Indiana...
Dells model is his own. He has assembled enough talent for this team to make some noise.
its really on Monty and Gordon to carry their weight.
besides all this talk about who do we want to be... the spurs have pop, alot of the teams mentioned here...have never won a title...OKC, Cleveland, Orlando, Portland, Indiana...
Dells model is his own. He has assembled enough talent for this team to make some noise.
its really on Monty and Gordon to carry their weight.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:00 am to KG5989
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but I thnk he will have a higher FG% than Lillard has... Which is 42.7%. Lillard is a better shooter than Payton, but he also settles for the 3 way more than he should. Lillard averaged 15.9 shot attempts per game, and 6.8 were from 3. That's a bunch
Are you really arguing that Lillard is a poor shooter because his FG% is 42? Can you tell me what Ryan Anderson's career FG% is?
And how in the world is he settling for too many 3s when he hits them at 39%? Jrue Holiday would be much better than a mediocre offensive player if he took even half the number of 3s Lillard takes.
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Lillard has Aldridge, Batum, and Wes Matthews on the floor with his most of every game, and he averages the same amount assists as Joakim Noah. If Lillard would shoot a couple times fewer per game and get his assists to around 7-8 per game
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what Portland does and the danger in labeling guys by position. The offense isn't designed to run through his table setting. They have 4 guys that all share in creating shots for each other. Lillard isn't "traditional pg,: but he doesn't have to be.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:51 am to KG5989
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Which is 42.7%. Lillard is a better shooter than Payton, but he also settles for the 3 way more than he should. Lillard averaged 15.9 shot attempts per game, and 6.8 were from 3. That's a bunch.
His % is low because fg% is flawed for guards or anyone who takes a decent # of 3s. Considering that a 3 is worth 1.5 times as much as a 2, his 39.1% from 3 gives you just as many points as someone shooting 59.4% from inside the arc on the same number of attempts.
If someone shoots over about 36% from 3, it's not a bad thing to shoot from that range.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 7:53 am to KG5989
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Plus I think Payton averages more assists as well. Lillard has Aldridge, Batum, and Wes Matthews on the floor with his most of every game, and he averages the same amount assists as Joakim Noah. If Lillard would shoot a couple times fewer per game and get his assists to around 7-8 per game, he would be better and so would the Blazers. I actually think Lillard is better suited as a scoring 2 guard rather than a true PG.
And I think Payton will be a really good rebounding PG and 1 of the top defensive PGs in the nba. I don't know what his ppg will be, but I'm fairly confident that he will have better FG% than Lillard. If I had to guess a stat line for Payton it would be like 15ppg, 7 assists, 5 rebs, 2 steals and shooting 45%. If he improves as a shooter, he could be a very good player. I def see some similarities between Elfrid and Gary Payton, not saying he will be as good as Gary, but I do see some similarities.
Did you go to ULL? You're building Payton up like he's going to be first team all-NBA before he touches and NBA court.
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