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re: Michael Irvin Blasts Cris Carter on LeBatard
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:00 pm to jg8623
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:00 pm to jg8623
Not sure if it is a disease or not, but why is the prerequisite for something being a disease or not wether you had a choice? If you get cancer from smoking is that not your choice? You your cancer not be a disease? Say you get AIDS by knowingly sleeping with someone who is infected would you not have a disease? Your arguments are very flawed.
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:16 pm to ssgtiger
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but why is the prerequisite for something being a disease or not wether you had a choice?
Exactly. If someone willingly contracted HIV, would it not be a disease?
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:45 pm to Jcorye1
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It's a mental disorder, not a disease.
lolwut?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:47 pm to Sophandros
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Whether you like it or not, addiction is a disease. Your opinion doesn't change facts.
Addiction is a disease is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:01 pm to RandySavage
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Addiction is a disease is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
come again? It is defined as a disease.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:11 pm to RandySavage
List of stupid things that RandySavage has ever heard:
Water is wet.
The sky is blue.
The sun sets in the West.
Addiction is a disease.
Water is wet.
The sky is blue.
The sun sets in the West.
Addiction is a disease.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:17 pm to RummelTiger
Lots of mob mentality in this thread.
Both of these guys are enormous pieces of shite.
Both of these guys are enormous pieces of shite.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:28 pm to Sophandros
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addiction is a disease
This is absurd and makes people with addictions sound even more like they're in denial. Calling it a disease almost seems like trying to make addiction sound more fricking PC.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:44 pm to ssgtiger
What in the hell are you talking about? The disease is the byproduct from smoking. Cancer is the disease you are susceptible to if you choose to smoke. Cancer will not go away when you finally put the cigs down. AIDS will not go away when you finally quit having sex with HIV infected partners. Quit drinking, and what happens? It sure as frick isnt a miracle. Voila, alcoholism is gone.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:04 pm to dnm3305
If you want to call it a disease you have to at least acknowledge it's one you give yourself, making it significantly different from other real forms of disease.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:19 pm to Sophandros
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addiction is a pandemic
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:10 am to dnm3305
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Quit drinking, and what happens? It sure as frick isnt a miracle. Voila, alcoholism is gone.
no. If you are an alcoholic who stops drinking, you are still an alcoholic until the day you die.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:27 am to Sterling Archer
What a fricking horrible thing to suggest to another man's spouse.
frick carter.
frick carter.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:40 am to Jcorye1
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No, it doesn't. It makes it a mental DISORDER. I don't consider anxiety to be a disease
Both are diseases. Anxiety being a mental disorder. Addiction being a disease and mental disorder. There is a reason a person sitting on their couch can have the same release of chemicals and cascade of symptoms as a person being chased by an axe murder. It's anxiety disorder.
There is a reason I can go watch an NFL Sunday and have 4-5 beers over the course of 2 games and leave and go about my day/nap. An addict will roll back home the next morning. Or 2-3 days later after hookers and blow.
Being a tool is not a disease. Irvin and carter can both stand accused of tool ness at times.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:52 am to Sterling Archer
I liked what Carter said about getting help but also taking personal responsibility and wanting to get help. He also spoke from his personal experience about his wake up call was when he got cut from the Eagles and Buddy Ryan said he couldn't trust him. He thinks the Browns should cut Gordon and Gordon needs to get help. I get it.
As far as the deal with Irvin didn't hear that interview. I'd be curious of Carter's response to that.
As far as the deal with Irvin didn't hear that interview. I'd be curious of Carter's response to that.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:34 am to ssgtiger
Not sure if it is a disease or not, but why is the prerequisite for something being a disease or not wether you had a choice? If you get cancer from smoking is that not your choice? You your cancer not be a disease? Say you get AIDS by knowingly sleeping with someone who is infected would you not have a disease? Your arguments are very flawed.
Well, your example has a major flaw in it from the get-go. No one is claiming smoking is a disease (the elective activity that produced the lung cancer), but the tumors that result from it certainly are.
You are claiming the elective activity itself (drinking) is a disease.
Now, if you claim the cirrhosis of the liver resulting from chronic drinking is a disease, we would all agree with you.
Well, your example has a major flaw in it from the get-go. No one is claiming smoking is a disease (the elective activity that produced the lung cancer), but the tumors that result from it certainly are.
You are claiming the elective activity itself (drinking) is a disease.
Now, if you claim the cirrhosis of the liver resulting from chronic drinking is a disease, we would all agree with you.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 10:42 am to secondandshort
Carter was specifically asked for his opinion based on his experiences & he answered accordingly. Irvin is knocking Carter based on his, Irvin's, experiences. I like Chris for the fact that he pulls no punches when discussing his very personal problems. He admits to being a POS back in those days but has quite obviously made changes in life/style that have made him a lot better man & a HOF football player. Irvin, whenever I see him, I get the impression he's got an agenda behind everything he's saying, primarily self promotion related.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:27 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Irvin calls it a disease, I am gonna call it a disease.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 5:25 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Choosing to smoke isn't the disease, the tumor it creates is. Choosing to drink isn't the disease, the physical and very real changes in the brain it creates is...and it doesn't go away after alcoholics/addicts stop.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 5:35 pm to ummagumma
The live side of ummagumma is
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