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re: why pay the $50. what's the cca really do with that money?

Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39509 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:39 pm to
Rad, is that you!?
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4314 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 4:58 pm to
Tax returns are out there as well...

LINK

open 2012 and go to pages 20&21 for their salaried employees...

only one person making under $115k ($87k)
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:08 pm to
God I hope so.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5176 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 12:48 pm to
I’m new to looking at CCA. I've been looking at the 2012 Form 990 and I assume all chapters are under the same CCA umbrella as far as IRS is concerned. Does anyone know if the Louisiana’s STAR tournament money revenue is included in Line 8a on Part VIII? On Schedule G for 2012, they list 266 fundraising "events" with the first event being “Fishing Tourneys”. Does every state have its own STAR Tournament?

If I’m looking at 2012 correctly, “Fishing Tourneys” gross revenue $1,607,299 minus $512,788 non-cash prizes and minus $436,400 other direct expenses giving net income of $658,111 from “Fishing Tourneys”.

If Event #2 is “Banquet & Auction”, Does anyone know what the “Other events” are? They are by far the meat and potatoes of CCA’s revenue and expense.
Posted by nahtanojc
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
980 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 1:28 pm to
It's $50. You spend more in one trip on gas getting down to where you are fishing. . .

That being said, all of you that are against the STAR, have you NEVER purchased any raffle ticket? Ever? Not saying lottery, although there are similarities there as well.

But what about the raffle tickets at your church fair, or for LSU tickets, or for God knows what else?! You are getting no guarantee that you will win, but you are paying a small price for a chance to win something that would otherwise cost you hundreds (or thousands, even)

How is the STAR any different?
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22685 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:05 pm to
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If I’m looking at 2012 correctly, “Fishing Tourneys” gross revenue $1,607,299 minus $512,788 non-cash prizes and minus $436,400 other direct expenses giving net income of $658,111 from “Fishing Tourneys”.

If Event #2 is “Banquet & Auction”, Does anyone know what the “Other events” are? They are by far the meat and potatoes of CCA’s revenue and expense.


Take this shite to the money board. We don't understand all this crap.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:24 pm to
$50 is a lot bro, that's one extra trip
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
3029 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:39 pm to
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$50 is a lot bro, that's one extra trip


not understanding the people who say, "it's only $50." do they just go around throwing 50 dollars away? i'd much rather use that 50 dollars on a charity that helps people or buy something of value than padding the pockets of some lobbyists or secretaries who make 6 figures a year because no one questions the organization.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39509 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:50 pm to
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i'd much rather use that 50 dollars on a charity that helps people or buy something of value than padding the pockets of some lobbyists or secretaries who make 6 figures a year


It's more about padding my garage with a brand new bay boat, but okay. Go drop $50 on a charity that's only giving back 10% to the people.

To be honest dude, some scumbag somewhere is making money off everything you do, so you might as well give it to someone with similar interests and concerns.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by nahtanojc
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
980 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 2:58 pm to
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not understanding the people who say, "it's only $50." do they just go around throwing 50 dollars away?


Are you saying you never waste $50?

Look at your purchases for the last week- did you need every single thing you bought? More than likely you have spent more than $50 this week alone on frivolous things.

quote:

i'd much rather use that 50 dollars on a charity that helps people


you're just trading one for another. . . you think every nonprofit organization spends 100% of your donation on the cause?
They have salaries to pay too- BIG salaries! and then operating expenses. only a small fraction of your donation will ever "help" someone in need.



Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
3029 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:03 pm to
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Look at your purchases for the last week- did you need every single thing you bought?


yes

tons of charities give a lot more than 10%. hell, i'd rather give 50 dollars to a homeless guy on the street than give to some fat cat who just socializes and makes 6 figures a year. i'd rather give to someone who has nothing even if he does nothing than give more to someone who has a lot and does nothing.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39509 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:07 pm to
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. i'd rather give to someone who has nothing even if he does nothing than give more to someone who has a lot and does nothing


These homeless people you'd rather help have the entire world at their hands and choose to do nothing. C'mon man just stop.

Eta: and lol for thinking CCA does "nothing"
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:15 pm to
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hell, i'd rather give 50 dollars to a homeless guy on the street


So what is stopping you? Just do $20 and a 40oz in a paper sack and he will appreciate it more. Plus you save $25.

Ultimately, if you give $50 to charity, you get nothing but that good feeling back, which is fine. CCA gives you a chance to win a boat.
Plus they lobby for sportsmen, just not trespassing sportsmen.
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:16 pm to
I do it so I will be accepted on the OB....
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30600 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:19 pm to
Because they got rid of gill nets and I for one will be forever grateful


Anyone that is a recreational fisherman in la should be too
Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
3029 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 3:54 pm to
25 years ago.

so they are going to ride on the gillnet ban coattails for the rest of time?

they haven't done anything since the early 1990s
Posted by GCHunter
Chasing my tail
Member since Aug 2009
2080 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:08 pm to
I am not going to get heavily into this topic but giving money to CCA provides funds to hire people who monitor anything and everything that has a regulatory impact on fishing, etc. CCA pays them to flag any new legislation that is trying to be forced through or passed without public knowledge. They have people that just sit and read all new proprosal for this purpose. CCA will flag them and then bring them up to the proper individuals. I bet you didnt know that an individual from New Orleans attached a gill net approval to a bill not related and this was caught and shot down. These are the things that people like you never hear of and the reason you never hear anything about it is because it is tabled or declined before the public even knows. Fishing resources are always under siege. They provide a necessary service so that we still have a resource to fish.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 4:09 pm
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29199 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:11 pm to
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runningTiger


Posted by runningTiger
Member since Apr 2014
3029 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:11 pm to
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ndividual from New Orleans attached a gill net approval to a bill not related and this was caught and shot down


link?

if it ever passed, in that highly unlikely event, would be vetoed very quickly
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7377 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 4:16 pm to
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people like you


You sound like a dick.

If they are working diligently to thwart of this constant barrage of anti angling legislation, they need to speak up.

If I were a lobbying group depending on private donations to operate, every single positive thing I did would be shouted from the rooftops. That would raise both awareness and funds.

You're saying that CCA is doing great work behind the scenes, we just don't know about it. Prove it, why keep it under wraps? Why not inform the people you are asking for money what the money is being spent on?
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 4:22 pm
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