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re: Pierre Jackson went down with an injury in first summer league game

Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Sucks for PJ, good for us that we flipped him when we did. 



So he would've ruptured his Achilles for us?
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:26 pm to
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Podna! You the only one on here that knows something cause these other fools just don't get it!
i'm not against you. I have no idea if russ is better than pierre I have never seen either play. my feathers were just ruffled when you called the d-leaguers nba caliber talent. there are some that scrape through but the majority that do are nba scrubs leaving 99% of the d-league not even nba caliber.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 8:27 pm
Posted by JayJay2
cane sweeeeeeet tea, Luzianne
Member since Jul 2010
15359 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:32 pm to
So nothing to prove your point right? That's good to know. You're just talking out of your arse based upon a dynamic scoring ability showcased in ncaa Division II.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63535 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:06 am to
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If Russ Smith makes the Pelicans roster this season, we're in a lotta trouble.


Let's see him play before we make a judgment. He seems to be highly thought of by more than one analyst and observer.

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Pierre had at least a lil shot of making a roster cuz he such a explosive scorer.


Maybe, but I think people put a little too much stock in his D League performance.

Now it would be troubling to think either one makes or breaks the Pelicans season.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:49 am to
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So he would've ruptured his Achilles for us? 



He may very well have. Those acting like he wouldn't have are every bit as fallacious as anyone saying he would. I'd say it's more likely he would than wouldn't. How did it happen? Was there an underlying issue? He may very well have had an existing condition that predisposed him to the injury.

Either way, he is now hurt. He is still an undersized chucker that didn't fit our style. We replaced him with a comparable player that seems a better fit.

Win-win.
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28725 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 10:09 am to
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Either way, he is now hurt. He is still an undersized chucker that didn't fit our style. We replaced him with a comparable player that seems a better fit.


In all honesty, I would rather Pierre myself. I liked him a little more coming out of college talent wise. He seemed to have the capability of being a good scorer off the bench. Russ could be okay though, he is more of an effort player and you cant really judge those until you see them in action.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 10:24 am to
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He is still an undersized chucker that didn't fit our style. We replaced him with a comparable player that seems a better fit


Yep. Everyone wants to go for offense. The offense, flawed as it may be, ain't the problem. Finishing 13th in ORating w/ all the injuries to key guys is not a bad achievement at all. Plenty of things I would like to see improved, but you can win with an offense that good.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 10:29 am to
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Yep. Everyone wants to go for offense. The offense, flawed as it may be, ain't the problem. Finishing 13th in ORating w/ all the injuries to key guys is not a bad achievement at all. Plenty of things I would like to see improved, but you can win with an offense that good.
wasn't our offense near the top of the league the few times we had full health?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:36 am to
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i'm not against you. I have no idea if russ is better than pierre i have never seen either play.
My comment wasn't meant for you! Only the clowns that continue to waste time with needless chatter. I have already made my point that it wasn't neccessary to trade Jackson and they were better off keeping him because he would have been the better backup PG to Holliday than a Smith. Jackson could come in and give you a boost off the bench with his dynamic abilty to score. Oh well, it's too late now, another bone headed decision by Demps and Co. .
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 11:43 am
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61511 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:47 am to
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In all honesty, I would rather Pierre myself.


You have to remember who the coach is though. Monty didn't seem the least bit comfortable with Pierre as a player. Even if Russ Smith is only 80% the player Pierre is on offense, he's supposedly a hustle defender and a Monty type of player. Willie Green may not be better than Marcus Thornton, but if you're going to be spending money and a roster spot on a guy, Willie Green is the guy you chose if Monty's your coach.

I hope Pierre gets healthy and has a successful career, but I can't believe we've gotten to page 3 arguing over 2nd round talent. Melo and LeBron need to make up their minds quick
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 11:50 am
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:48 am to
You didn't make that point at all. You just said it a few times and then pretended you won the argument.

Glad to see you're still the same moron we've known for years now.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 11:59 am to
That's MW for you, brah! Always with the defense preachery meanwhile teams are among worst in the league defensively. PJ would have been fun to watch comin off the bench to provide a spark. Oh well!
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27875 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 12:39 pm to
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Demps and Williams continue to do stupid shite. They trade this kid to Philly for Louisville's rookie guard who is virtually the same size. The difference to me is that Jackson is a much better player. I don't get it. I'm starting to think these two clowns really don't know anything about basketball.

OK. You think he's better. And you give zero reason why.

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What ain't close?? You talkin about height, brah?? What we talkin about?? A inch or two! They list Smith at 6'0 feet even though he's probably 5'11. Pierre Jackson is a heckuva offensive player even at 5'9" or 5"10". He led the NBAD League in scoring last season. And these fools just give him away. I liked Demps and Williams when they first got rolling there, but their dumb decisions as of late has gotten old. Like the first rounder for this season they could have used that they gave away additionally to get Jrue Holliday.

Pierre Jackson is better because he led a league of nobodies in scoring. Got it.

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You probably one of the dumb counts that was on here last season talkin about Noel and 1st rounder to Philly for Holliday was a good trade when it happened. Sure it was. Go suck off ya boy Lobos. Not one of you muthafrickas know shite about basketball.
Can you start a separate thread detailing how it was a bad trade?

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D league or Z league he is a much better player right now than some fresh faced out of school rookie. Just please stop. One dummy is enough. Jackson is a much better player right now. Kid has worked hard. Unfortunate thing that happened to him. Wish him well

So now he's better than Russ Smith because Russ was in college last year?

Withey>>>>>>Embiid

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No! But you must be if you are trin to tell me Russ Smith is better than Pierre Jackson right now.

Same thing. No support to your argument. Just a statement.
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good one. That is the only way! Pierre Jackson has gotten valuable experience training in the Pelicans system last season and this season. Played a whole season against some NBA caliber talent in the developmental league which has also improved him. And this fool has the audacity to ask me or imply that a fresh off the Rick Pitino's cock Russ Smith is the better player.

First, Pierre Jackson didn't spend "last season and this season" training in the Pelicans' system, so you pulled that out of your arse. Second, you once again didn't support your argument with any relevant facts. Just because a guy played in the nbadl doesn't automatically make him better than a guy who played in college. That is insane.

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Some of these guys do go on and make NBA teams you know. So they have to have something. San Antonio has done pretty well off them.

Some of these guys make an NBA roster. Great. Russ Smith played against a ton of NBA talent in college. He played against players who will have a much bigger impact in the nba than the guys Pierre Jackson was playing against last year.

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That's not what I meant when I made that comment. Of course a lot of those guys will never make it to the NBA. But some do. And I'm to tired to go frickin look up their names. But you would play them when your team runs across their team. So in essence you are playin some NBA caliber talent. Garrett Temple, all those cats have had stints there.

but this is nothing. The question is or was is Smith better than Jackson was before he got hurt. And the answer is hell no!

Garrett Temple (lists zero other players...) all those cats. And then, again, you say Jackson is better than Smith, but give zero reason as to why.

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Podna! You the only one on here that knows something cause these other fools just don't get it!
Finds some semblance of a point the aligns with his own, clings to that poster.

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And Russ Smith is to small to make any difference any damn ways. Just traded away a dynamic scoring lil guard for a avaerage lil college guard. MW loses on both counts.

When your argument for a 5'10" guy is that the 6'0" guy is too small, you're doing it wrong.

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quote: i'm not against you. I have no idea if russ is better than pierre i have never seen either play. My comment wasn't meant for you! Only the clowns that continue to waste time with needless chatter. I have already made my point that it wasn't neccessary to trade Jackson and they were better off keeping him because he would have been the better backup PG to Holliday than a Smith. Jackson could come in and give you a boost off the bench with his dynamic abilty to score. Oh well, it's too late now, another bone headed decision by Demps and Co. .

As I've pointed out, you haven't made that point at all.
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Stupid frick! I've said it since the begining. How dumb are you??

Clearly you haven't.
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That's MW for you, brah! Always with the defense preachery meanwhile teams are among worst in the league defensively. PJ would have been fun to watch comin off the bench to provide a spark. Oh well!

Logic: Our defense is bad, so we should let a guy who is terrible on D play.

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Because Jackson is the flat out better player you moronic brain dead frick! Look throughout the thread, it's only there like all the time in my posts you dumb hillbilly. Go play with yourself! I have no interest in you! You're one of the dumbest posters on here!

We're looking throughout the thread. It's not there. Nor is it "only there like all the time" in your posts.

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15189 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:47 pm to
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Would someone RA this a-hole? I have a thing about not RA'ing, but he's pushing me to the brink.


I've RA'ed about 3 of his outbursts, but that button is like tits on a boar around here.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63535 posts
Posted on 7/6/14 at 8:56 pm to
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I've RA'ed about 3 of his outbursts, but that button is like tits on a boar around here.



Most of the powers that be probably have forgotten that this board even exists.
Posted by iliveinabox
in a box
Member since Aug 2011
24115 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:56 am to
jezum..injury bug is strong with this one
Posted by chillygentilly
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:44 pm to
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He led the NBAD League in scoring last season. And these fools just give him away.


Melvin Ely was a NBAD All-Star last year
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