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re: 3 things preventing soccer from gaining mainstream U.S. popularity
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I really hope you're trolling and don't actually believe this nonsense, especially the timekeeping part.
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:03 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Try that during sweeps week
Not sure what this sweeps week is??
ok obviously you are trolling and not actually looking for answers or responses to your question. Have a good day. i hope you are rooting for a US win and will watch
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:05 am to CGSC Lobotomy
As a dad of two boys 12 and 9 who have never watched a second of soccer here are my thoughts.
First of all I don't particularly care for it unless the USA is playing. Heck I'll watch just about anything with the red white and blue in competition.
My boys watched part of a few games and it is noticeable that it is growing on them. They are beginning to understand the rules and a little strategy. They are definitely ready for today's game (or do we say match?) My youngest just bought a soccer ball with some birthday money, I couldn't believe it.
As far as gaining steam the one overriding thing that both boys just hate is the flopping. I know its probably been beat to death and its part of it but when someone gets nudged and then they roll around like they have been shot they go bananas. It's a big turn off for them. I asked them if they would like to play soccer in the city league, my oldest said no, but youngest said maybe, then asked if they flop like on tv. Said I didn't know. And yes they hate Chris Paul and James for flopping as well.
Just two cents from some youngsters very new to watching soccer that could be potential fans in the future.
First of all I don't particularly care for it unless the USA is playing. Heck I'll watch just about anything with the red white and blue in competition.
My boys watched part of a few games and it is noticeable that it is growing on them. They are beginning to understand the rules and a little strategy. They are definitely ready for today's game (or do we say match?) My youngest just bought a soccer ball with some birthday money, I couldn't believe it.
As far as gaining steam the one overriding thing that both boys just hate is the flopping. I know its probably been beat to death and its part of it but when someone gets nudged and then they roll around like they have been shot they go bananas. It's a big turn off for them. I asked them if they would like to play soccer in the city league, my oldest said no, but youngest said maybe, then asked if they flop like on tv. Said I didn't know. And yes they hate Chris Paul and James for flopping as well.
Just two cents from some youngsters very new to watching soccer that could be potential fans in the future.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:07 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
If anything, not constantly being bombarded by beer and truck commercials would be a draw for most viewers.
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3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
While technically true, if you had this, the result would be probably 55 minute halves. With few exceptions (USA-Portugal, for instance), you rarely get more than 2-3 minutes of extra time per half.
Title IX is a given.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:09 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
The next time someone snaps the ball with one second left in football and runs some crazy play that lasts 8 to 13 seconds I want you to come here and tell us that that play should have been blown dead when the clock hit zero.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:09 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
Yet TV contracts to show soccer have continued to increase. There isn't a built-in TV audience but it is getting there. This is not to mention that advertisers have found ways of jamming themselves into broadcasts despite no commercials.
Also college soccer is detrimental to the development of the sport in the US.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:12 am to crazy4lsu
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Also college soccer is detrimental to the development of the sport in the US.
Shhhhh.....he knows the answers.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:13 am to crazy4lsu
i think we need to do something to address the issues with 3
if you want to keep stoppage time, then fine. i believe we should have a running clock public to everyone that runs "up" when the ball is dead to give an accurate, PUBLIC, keeping of time
that way we know the exact amount of stoppage time for a game, and there is no issue with how it is calculated
if you want to keep stoppage time, then fine. i believe we should have a running clock public to everyone that runs "up" when the ball is dead to give an accurate, PUBLIC, keeping of time
that way we know the exact amount of stoppage time for a game, and there is no issue with how it is calculated
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:16 am to Srbtiger06
Exactly. At 20 you should be playing for a EPL Reserve squad, not Maryland vs UVa.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:18 am to SlowFlowPro
What I would like is some way of knowing how a ref measures injury time. Like if we could see him start his watch, or if we had some clear rules on what events during match play lead to however many minutes of injury time. We know a sub in injury time supposedly adds 30 seconds, but how often is it enforced. More clear rules along those lines would probably allow us to keep the excitement of injury time while also giving more accurate time keeping.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:23 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I think the sport will continue to grow and will become a very popular sport in the states. That's my opinion just as your 3 points are as well.
We'll see who's right in about 10 years or so.
We'll see who's right in about 10 years or so.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:24 am to CGSC Lobotomy
go back to drinking gizz jars
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about
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2. Title IX. Unless football is exempted from Title IX restrictions, you won't see many men's soccer programs at the NCAA level. That's why WOMEN'S soccer has grown so much nationally.
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:24 am to crazy4lsu
for a sport (or an organization, if we're talking about FIFA) that was so reluctant to install goal line tech b/c it would change how the game was played at different levels, they have no problem with refs inconsistently fricking off every game
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:26 am to crazy4lsu
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Also college soccer is detrimental to the development of the sport in the US.
I disagree with this - to an extent.
I think college soccer as it is currently construed is a hindrance to development of the sport.
But I strongly believe that improving college soccer could improve the overall state of soccer in the USA.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:27 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Soccer is, has, and will be the biggest and most popular sport in the history of sports. Now that it's popularity has gotten to the point where I can literally watch any professional game I want, I don't give one single frick if it gets anymore popular. You once every 4 years fans and your arrogant notions that the worlds most popular sport somehow needs changing or rule fixes to appease an American audience, really count for nothing. Don't like our game or it's rules? Don't watch it. Soccer doesn't need you.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
If we want change to happen, it would have to start at the league level. Just a few years ago, MLS was made fun of for using a great technology in the free kick spray, but were made fun of, even though it was also used in Brazil. When it worked FIFA adopted it. Stricter clock management from the MLS is something that could actually be done, and from there adopted by more associations until it becomes FIFA practice.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:30 am to crazy4lsu
I think it would actually frustrate people more if the clock indicated the actual end of the half. In NFHS and NCAA play, the clock counts down and when the clock hits zero, that's the end of it all. If the ball is in flight when the buzzer goes off, but has yet to pass the goal line, too bad.
Wouldn't that be worse?
Wouldn't that be worse?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:31 am to Tiger Phil
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I disagree with this - to an extent.
I think college soccer as it is currently construed is a hindrance to development of the sport.
But I strongly believe that improving college soccer could improve the overall state of soccer in the USA.
meh not really. College is basically now a maybe we get luck with a Cameron.
These kids need to be in Europe or an MLS academy not aiming to play in college. They need to learn to be professionals with pro coaching not college/HS level.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:36 am to StraightCashHomey21
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meh not really. College is basically now a maybe we get luck with a Cameron.
These kids need to be in Europe or an MLS academy not aiming to play in college. They need to learn to be professionals with pro coaching not college/HS level.
You guys are looking at it through the focus of only how do we get our national team players better? Yes, the best of the best will need to go to play professionally as soon as possible. Before college, etc.
But in order to get MORE players in the pool, we could increase our level of investment in men's college soccer. Then, as a byproduct, we would end up sending MORE elite players to become professionals early. AND we would get players like Cameron or Dempsey - didn't he play a little college soccer - to contribute.
Collegiate sports is a truly American phenomenon. We should try to harness that support to increase the level of play across the board in the US!
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:37 am to PsychTiger
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PsychTiger
I don't think you know what a "soccer hipster" is
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