re: D'Souza's "America"...gonna go see it?

My tea party friend asked me to go see it with him. He's a little more fringe right than I am (he's worked on campaigns and for a R congressman). He's my wife's friends brother and we sat by each other at a pro life luncheon and he was excited to meet somebody with similar politics who doesn't repeat Hannity and rush talking points. He's been inviting me to tea parties ever since. Will report.

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repeat Hannity and rush talking points.

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Specifically, what are these Rush talking points?

I would say 4/5 of the movie were very good.

The discussion on the crimes of America were handled very well and I appreciated that he didn't go out of his way to discredit the opposing viewpoints but offer counterarguments on their own.

No denying that they happened but did America originate a lot of the things they are hated for? Is there more to the story than Zinn and Allinsky preach? Yes.

The only part I didn't care for was the attack on the current administration. I'm diametrically opposed to all of their stances but outside of the Allinsky connection it was forced, misplaced,and broke up the nature of the film. Remove that part and it's a much better film.

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conservative fantasy film about an America that never has and never will exist.

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The movie is probably about as intellectually honest and entertaining as simply watching military Jets fly over the Super Bowl for 2 hours straight...while everyone waves red, white and blue pom-poms with a hot-dog shoved down their gut.

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The Tea Party is his target audience

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Thinking for your own, doing your own math, using logic, looking at the whole picture... people who do these things are his target audience

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The only thing that gives me hope is the fact that most liberals are pussies and when push comes to shove will not lay it down for what they say they believe in. They are hedonist to the core and most have no true beliefs or convictions. They are weak of character and this is why they NEED assistance from the gov't, they NEED to spend our money instead of theirs, and they NEED shady bullshite politicos to defend and promote their self indulgent, lazy arse ways.

The rest are privileged wusses that feel guilty for being born into wealth. And also want to fix societies woes with others money. As guilty as they feel, they seldom part with their own resources to provide the needy with what they say they need. Example his Hillary and her ugly arse daughter. All the BS talk about being poor and not caring about money. BULLLSHIT!!!! You don't want it? Give it the frick away to all the poor you say you love. Hypocrites.

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The best thing about this misguided polemic is how mad you are. LOL

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Saw it today, very much enjoyed it, but not what you'd first expect... definitely would recommend.

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Hmmm...so busy I didn't get to view it, MS; but "not what expected"? Just curious...in what way were you surprised?

D'Souza is generally very systematic. Frames the imagery with Obama's words, and those of his chosen cohorts. Believes - as more each day do - that Obama is out to "fundamentally transform" this nation to the European Socialist model. Even or regardless that near half of the populous want none of it, and see such as a pernicious cultural shift that is contrary to their God-given Rights.

As such, any transition/transformation will necessarily be Authoritarian. And likely all the more rejected...by force of arms...if need be. Though economic/systematic collapse and an ensuing relative anarchy is far more likely. Kinda like Katrina...only across the board. Power goes back to locals.

I do hope to see it; but most on this board don't really need to. Hell...we could probably have produced the thing.

I did read "The Transhumanist Wager" over the weekend. Mindblower. If these folk are for real...Marxist are the least of our worries. In fact, the Egalitarian Marxist should shaking in their shoes. Darwinian...on steroids. Or more succinctly...computeresque reason.

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i've heard some TERRIBLE shite from him when he goes to religion, Obama, etc

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I think he's got Obama pegged.

Remember D'Souza is from India a former British colony.

Obama's father was from Kenya, the same.

If anybody understands post-colonial attitudes and the resentment towards the West, it's D'Souza.

I was going to go see it, but instead went on living my life.

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They are weak of character and this is why they NEED assistance from the gov't, they NEED to spend our money instead of theirs, and they NEED shady bullshite politicos to defend and promote their self indulgent, lazy arse ways.

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Exactly why I don't fear the takers in the long run. They only hand they have is artificially created. Reality will deal with that eventually.