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re: Our young defensive front vs. Wisconsin's running game...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:01 pm to MusicMaster
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:01 pm to MusicMaster
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Yup. Running backs are different. What happens if he fumbles the 1st carry? Does he bench him like he did to Hill in last years Ole Miss game? Do you really think that Harris will start the 1st game even though he may look better in fall workouts? I assure you that Jennings will take the 1st snap in the opener and will play 99% of the game.
Then Jennings will have to step it up, cause of right now, he's not the starter IMO. You may be right, and you have sound logic and history on your side, but I saw a lot of indecision, and lost confidence, in his last 2 chances(Iowa,SpringG). If Jennings gets his groove back, your probably right, but there is a much bigger chance that Harris gets the opening snap IMO, all depends on Jennings...
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:05 pm to lsu2006
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You seem pretty sure about a lot of stuff, bruh.
Well I am looking from past events. If I am wrong I will be here to take the walk of shame.
LSU is real young on offense skill positions. I want them to win every game. But reality keeps hitting me in the face.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:40 pm to MusicMaster
Fournette is the highest ranked RB to come to LSU since Kevin Faulk. If I am correct, Faulk was the number one player in the country. I wouldn't be surprise to see Fournette get several carries in the first game. He is just that good. You have to believe that Miles and Cameron are itching to unleash this young Tiger.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:07 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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I don't think it's the tortoise vs the hare. Gordon can flat out fly.
Team speed baby not individual runs. Ted, Jr. for the Butteyes could fly as well.
D line and linebacker speed is what separates our league from the rest.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:22 pm to Mulerider
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Team speed baby not individual runs. Ted, Jr. for the Butteyes could fly as well.
D line and linebacker speed is what separates our league from the rest.
Not trying to sound like an arse, but what does Ginn have to do with anything?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 4:29 am to hoopsgalore
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Not trying to sound like an arse, but what does Ginn have to do with anything?
Think back to the BCS title game between Ohio State and Florida. Ted Ginn, Jr scored for Ohio State on a kickoff return. In a game no one gave Florida a chance to win in the first place.
Then Florida went into gear, and the country was shown first-hand the signature feature of SEC defenses...defensive line speed. The Gators lived in the Ohio State backfield the rest of the game, which ended 41-14 Florida.
That's the context for the Ginn reference. We've collectively never forgotten being told that the underdog Florida team would have no answer for Ginn.
So now, whenever a Big Ten team talks about how fast or unstoppable one of their players are, we here in the SEC collectively smirk.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:51 am to Broham
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So could Oregon
Wisconsin offensive lines >>>>>>>>>>> Oregon offensive lines
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:37 am to VABuckeye
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Wisconsin offensive lines >>>>>>>>>>> Oregon offensive lines
And Oregon skill players >>>>>>> Wisconsin skill players
Oregon outruns Wisconsin to win highest-scoring Rose Bowl ever
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:43 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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And Oregon skill players >>>>>>> Wisconsin skill players
The point is that Wisconsin has the players up front to block LSU. Oregon did not.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:27 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Think back to the BCS title game between Ohio State and Florida. Ted Ginn, Jr scored for Ohio State on a kickoff return. In a game no one gave Florida a chance to win in the first place.
Then Florida went into gear, and the country was shown first-hand the signature feature of SEC defenses...defensive line speed. The Gators lived in the Ohio State backfield the rest of the game, which ended 41-14 Florida.
That's the context for the Ginn reference. We've collectively never forgotten being told that the underdog Florida team would have no answer for Ginn.
So now, whenever a Big Ten team talks about how fast or unstoppable one of their players are, we here in the SEC collectively smirk.
I remember the game well, but still fail to see what Ginn has to do with it. He returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown, a teammate landed on his foot in the celebration, and Ginn subsequently left the game.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 8:49 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:44 am to VABuckeye
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The point is that Wisconsin has the players up front to block LSU. Oregon did not.
LSU beat that same Oregon team that year that Wisconsin lost to.
And if the Badgers OL had trouble blocking against their rebuilt front seven in the Wisconsin spring game...the score was 6-0...they will struggle even more against the kind of talent and experience LSU will throw at them.
LSU will be much improved on defense this year. Wisconsin will find out first hand just how much improved.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:47 am to hoopsgalore
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I remember the game well, but still fail to see what Ginn has to do with i
Well, change the name from "Ginn" to any other hyped Big Ten Player. And the result is the same. That game just stands out because it was the one where everyone was campaigning for an Ohio State-Michigan rematch in the BCS title game.
And it was after the bowls, when both B1G teams got blown out badly, that everyone began taking what B1g teams do in conference play with a grain of salt.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:22 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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LSU beat that same Oregon team that year that Wisconsin lost to.
Well, to be fair, Oregon played LSU the first game of the season and Wisconsin the last game of the season. Teams evolve.
Regardless, nothing in 2006 or 2011 has anything to do with the game on August 30, 2014.
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And if the Badgers OL had trouble blocking against their rebuilt front seven in the Wisconsin spring game
I would like to note some things about your perception of Wisconsin's Spring Game:
- The first half was a controlled-scrimmage. There were 40 plays without live-tackling. Unofficially, the first-team offense, which sat a handful players due to injuries, scored three times.
- The second half was a live-scrimmage in which Wisconsin's top-two backs (Clement and Gordon) didn't see any carries.
- Adam Rittenberg: "Wisconsin fans shouldn't draw too much from Saturday given the injuries and other limitations."
- "With several injuries on the offensive side of the ball, coach Andersen and his staff made the decision to sit running backs Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement during the full-contact portion of the game. With their absences, the opportunity presented itself for the younger tailbacks on the roster to make their case for the third running back spot."
- Backup Tanner McEvoy tried to make the most of the opportunity to shine, though the offense he led bared little resemblance to the first-string unit that coach Gary Andersen will likely use this fall.
In short, the first half was a controlled-scrimmage, which saw a few "unofficial" touchdowns. The second half was a live-scrimmage which saw many reserves (i.e. Austin Ramesh) seeing the field and some of the Badgers better players (i.e. Melvin Gordon) sitting on the sideline the entire half.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 10:27 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:42 am to hoopsgalore
Every year is different. Ohio State has struggled with the SEC. On the other hand, Michigan has done well versus the SEC. I don't think we can equate OSU success against the SEC with Wisky-LSU game. This game might look like the Iowa game and it might not. That's why I am very intrigued with this matchup. What LSU team will show up? The one that takes advantage of every opportunity and jumps out to a big lead. Or will it be the team that gets stupid penalties and turnover the ball at the wrong time. We just didn't know.
IMO, this season could turnout to be like 2011. There are a ton of unknowns. We have lost a lot of leaders on defense but there is a lot of talent returning. The one thing we need on this team is a defensive playmaker in the secondary, at DE and at LB. We had that with Mingo, Mathieu and Minter. IMO, Alexander is the only one that has shown consistent playmaking ability. Hunter and Mills have that potential.
IMO, this season could turnout to be like 2011. There are a ton of unknowns. We have lost a lot of leaders on defense but there is a lot of talent returning. The one thing we need on this team is a defensive playmaker in the secondary, at DE and at LB. We had that with Mingo, Mathieu and Minter. IMO, Alexander is the only one that has shown consistent playmaking ability. Hunter and Mills have that potential.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:22 pm to hoopsgalore
I can say this with a modicum of certainty, LSU is being under sold at DLine. Rasco and Hunter will be a big force that will have to be accounted for. If they get doubled then all we need is gap responsibilities to be fulfilled so our linebackers can get penetration to stop the rushing.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:44 pm to hoopsgalore
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In short, the first half was a controlled-scrimmage, which saw a few "unofficial" touchdowns. The second half was a live-scrimmage which saw many reserves (i.e. Austin Ramesh) seeing the field and some of the Badgers better players (i.e. Melvin Gordon) sitting on the sideline the entire half.
I hear ya man. BTW, I want to correct any presumptions you might have...I have tremendous respect for your conference, your school, your team, and your fan base. I was re-reading some of my previous posts and I could see someone thinking otherwise.
I was surprised to learn, for example, that Wisconsin's athletic budget is about $25 million more per annum than LSU's. Looks like you guys sponsor more sports at the varsity level. Many LSU fan like myself would like to see LSU add some more sports, so I'm frankly jealous. IMHO only having 8 men's teams and 11 women's teams is too little for an athletic program as profitable as ours.
When I post here, it's during my downtime, and I'm usually enjoying myself IRL as I do. I'm very partial to making a pitcher of Bloody Mary and a plate of BLT's if I plan on being online for awhile.
Looking forward to our game!
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:25 pm to MusicMaster
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So why did Hill not really play at all and then Explode in the South Carolina game. Are you telling me he just got real good? I understand he was not on the team the year before and not able to practice, But he went from nothing to a star that Saturday afternoon. The dude was just as good at the start of the season.
He had 5 people ahead of him and he hadn't played football for about a year and a half. We were also playing against North Texas, not some great team. At least four of those players had rushed for 370 yards and 7 TDs a peice. Three of them had at least 500 yards. You saw how Blue and Hilliard started out of the gate, I'm pretty sure that Hill was very rusty after all his time off.
Do you not remember the UNC game were it was reported that Miles played like 18 true freshman and redshirt freshman? That included Simon, Reid, Mathieu, Montgomery, Mingo, and a host of others.
That was actually the reason why they came back throwing it because we had like three true freshman in the secondary after we went up 30-10.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:37 pm to LSUNV
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I can say this with a modicum of certainty, LSU is being under sold at DLine. Rasco and Hunter will be a big force that will have to be accounted for. If they get doubled then all we need is gap responsibilities to be fulfilled so our linebackers can get penetration to stop the rushing.
Agreed. The defense in general is being undersold from what I'm seeing. The Dline will be quicker with more depth than last year while the back 7 may be the fastest group Chavis has had other than 2011. I believe we'll see a deeper, faster version of the defense which shut down Iowa.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 3:43 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Brick needs to do work
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:53 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Gordon will easily be in the top 15 backs we face this year 
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