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re: Has Dinardo been back in Tiger Stadium since he was canned?

Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:29 am to
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:29 am to
Is next year also the 20 yr anniversary of their Bring Back the Magic campaign/first year as LSU's head coach?

I don't think there's any sane comparison between Hallman and DiNardo, other than the job title.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:45 am to
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The framework of the current program definitely began with
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:45 am to
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The framework of the current program definitely began with DiNardo


are you kidding?
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:47 am to
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I don't think there's any sane comparison between Hallman and DiNardo

Hell no.

Gerry cleaned up his mess. And if not for the bullshite good ole boys running our AD that wouldn't spend a dime, DiNardo could have kept his quality assistants and '98 and '99 likely wouldn't have happened.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:49 am to
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are you kidding?

No. DiNardo recruited his arse off and showed that LSU was capable of being a power with even a slight financial investment and quality recruiting. He built the foundation, Saban brought us into the big time, and Les has maintained excellence.
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:54 am to
How many DiNardo guys were on Saban's first two teams?

Answer: a lot.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:10 pm to
DiNardo laid the foundation for the house Saban built, that really can't be argued. He brought us into the modern era of college facilities...Grid Iron Club, upgrading facilities, etc. He wasn't a good enough coach to win championships here, but he's still a key figure in modern LSU football history.
Posted by Txtiger54
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:39 pm to
I like the position Saban & Miles have LSU in now. Being favored in most games means your pretty damn good & living in Texas I know the Longhorns would love to trade places with LSU. You are right about One thing & that's few nite games, miss that Tiger tradition of tailgating all day with people you don't even know & wishing it would never end.Oh well, here's to the 2014 Tiger team . It's BUGA time.
Posted by Softscrub
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:18 pm to
LINK

You're welcome. Same exact hat. Late response I know, but I couldn't believe I found it
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
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Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:31 pm to
Description says 1984 but DiNardo arrived in 1995.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:08 am to
The revisionist history of the Dinardo era is absurd. He did everything a coach could do to destroy a program his last two years. His comments after his firing were utterly false & he shouldn't be allowed in the state much less tiger stadium.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:21 am to
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was canned?The revisionist history of the Dinardo era is absurd. He did everything a coach could do to destroy a program his last two years.


this

We all appreciate the effort Jerry made however this program was in the ashes the last two years he was here and all because of DiNardo himself. When Emmert arrived he realized the biggest disaster on this campus was the football situation. Joe Dean was also a disaster from day one. You guys don't want to admit it but Emmert/Saban are the reasons LSU became and still is a factor on the national stage. Yes Miles has been able to sustain it.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 8:22 am
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:48 am to
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We all appreciate the effort Jerry made however this program was in the ashes the last two years he was here and all because of DiNardo himself.


when Reese left in 97 and Watts left in 98, Dinardo tried to circle the wagons with loyal guys and basically run the entire program himself. Unfortunately his controlling nature and his paranoia got the best of him and he came pretty close to having a full on emotional melt down.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 8:52 am to
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when Reese left in 97 and Watts left in 98, Dinardo tried to circle the wagons with loyal guys and basically run the entire program himself. Unfortunately his controlling nature and his paranoia got the best of him and he came pretty close to having a full on emotional melt down.


exactly

Reese made it clear-publically- LSU was heading south. how many SEC teams had a former cheerleader for their tight-ends coach? Jerry did.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:15 am to
I know it was a joke, but Archer has already been back and was honored with the 1988 SEC Championship team he coached when LSU honored the 25th anniversary of the Earthquake Game.

Hallman had nothing worth honoring...unless we bring him out at Bryant-Denny one year and honor him for beating Bama and ending their long unbeaten streak. I'm not sure if their administration would cooperate though. That was the only good memory from that era.
This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by Nunk Red
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 9:58 am to
Um, '97 FLA is a pretty good memory
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:04 am to
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quote: Don't think Gerry has much interest, I've always heard he's pretty bitter. Read somewhere he couldn't even watch the 03 title game because he thought it should have been him there

Troll somewhere else. This is completely untrue.


Actually, there is some truth in there. I remember reading that article. He said he couldn't bring himself to watch the BCS Championship because it reminded him too much about what could have been. But he also said he kept asking his wife for updates on the score while the game was being played.

He spoke fondly though about LSU and said he had a hard time accepting the firing at the time (because he thought he should have gotten one more year), but he knew that they didn't get it done in the end like they needed to in such a competitive environment. I doubt he'd pass up getting honored in any way though. He has said the fans might not have liked him much during the slide, but said they were still great fans.

If you honestly look back on it, it was almost a miracle to get what we did out of that hiring. We had six straight losing seasons and just had the worst coach in LSU history and we hired a guy that didn't even have one winning season at Vandy (and had lost his last game 65-0). It was a super-saver hire. DiNardo came in and excited the fan base by getting Faulk and a lot of really good Louisiana players. He talked about winning and winning right away. I really liked that about him. He didn't say it was going to take a few years (like Lou Tepper), etc. He knew how important it was to focus on getting the Louisiana talent.

And we did win right away. To come in after Curley and win right away was a monster task. He did almost bring things back to Curley levels with the Tepper D and he was fired at the right time, but the three good years with three bowl Ws and the win against #1 UF were great accomplishments. Saban was a completely different monster, but Gerry D did show LSU fans what was possible coming out of the darkest of periods. We were fortunate we didn't have 10 or 11 losing seasons in a row considering the hire.


Posted by Big EZ Tiger
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 10:08 am to
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Um, '97 FLA is a pretty good memory


I was talking about the Hallman era.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:51 pm to
Joe Dean told a good friend, former president of the Birmingham alumni association, that JD was the most intelligent person he'd ever run across in sports, graduating with honors from N.Dame. But, according to that conversation, JD was just as bad when it came to people skills. His staffs came to hate him, due to his micro managing & his paranoid personality. FWIW, Joe always claimed he would have preferred to keep him for one more yr but the powers that be wanted JN gone. Knock Joe for being a puppet but he quite literally had no say over any important matters in the athletic dept.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/3/14 at 12:55 pm to
Gerry did indeed set up on that path to the promised land. However, like Moses, he did not get to take us into it. But, make no mistake, he led things through much of the journey back. Saban came in and took us over the hump into the promised land, and Miles has essentially kept us there. Hallman? He was way in over his head, and you could tell that at his first game as head coach when we went to Athens to play Georgia - remember looking through my binoculars and seeing this dumbfounded look on his face. Archer? He did a hell of a lot more than Hallman and even won a bowl game which had not been done since Charles Mac's last year. Stovall and Arnsparger did not win a bowl game during their time. Mike's problem was that he was thrusted into the position way too early and was in over his head. Only after Ed "Zaun" took over at Northeast (ULM) did I realize that if they were going to take a member of Arns' staff to elevate, it probably should have been him. However, the BOS was running the show like a three ring circus. Steve Spurrier and Mike Shanahan were applicants and couldn't even get an interview. I don't hold Mike's last two seasons against him these days as in hindsight, he simply got thrown into a situation that was over his head. Instead they hire a moron named Hallman, who some thought made Brett Farve, although it soon became apparent that Farve made Hallman at So Miss.

I would also agree that the single best element in LSU's turnaround was Mark Emmert. Without him, it probably would not have happened.


Joe Dean was probably one of the worst hiring mistakes made by LSU from day one. Good ambassador (when sober)? Yes. Decent AD? No.

All that said, yeah, I think Gerry should be honored at some point. Wasn't he also doing a radio show for ESPN at one point?

This post was edited on 7/3/14 at 1:00 pm
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