re: Will this be a wild offseason?

Posted by PortCityTiger82

Shreveport, LA

Member since Nov 2010

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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:00 pm to TigerinATL

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and there is even talk of the Big 3 breaking up and things like LeBron to the Clippers or Bosh to Houston happening.

That would be a nasty big 3. Lebron paired up with Chris Paul and a true center in Blake Griffin. Hope that doesn't happen.

Posted by VOR

Member since Apr 2009

63511 posts

Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:37 pm to TigerinATL

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Will this be a wild offseason?

Probably.

I don't see Love going to the Clippers, although that's just a gut feeling. I also think LeBron stays in Miami. If he goes anywhere, he ends up in Cleveland. Laugh if you want . . . just watch.

Posted by GynoSandberg

Member since Jan 2006

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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:29 am to PortCityTiger82

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true center in Blake Griffin

Da fuq

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor

An Incredibly Distant Star

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 6/20/14 at 8:43 am to GynoSandberg

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Da fuq

For real

Posted by teke184

Zachary, LA

Member since Jan 2007

95527 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:13 am to iAmThatMan

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Rubio
Thompson
Brewer
Lee
Pekovic

The idea would have to be flipping Lee or Pekovic if they made that deal, most likely Pekovic since he's got a longer contract and I don't think there will be many takers on Lee.

Flipping Pekovic potentially saves them about $48m in salary over 4 years.

Posted by corndeaux

Member since Sep 2009

9634 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:18 am to brmark70816

They send out the best player (by far) in the deal, get little cap relief and perhaps a late first.

Thompson is good, but he's not max good. David Lee is the real problem though. Lee is considerably worse than Love at everything and is paid roughly the same amount over the next two years. If they have to include Lee there needs to be more sweetener than just Thompson. Love is easily a top 10 player in the league. This would be a quarter and a dime for a dollar.

I would look for young players and picks if I were Flip. A Boston offer seems the best to me, though Cleveland might be more desperate to deal now that Embiid is riskier. Parker would be a nice fit.

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Posted by TigerinATL

Member since Feb 2005

61503 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:29 am to corndeaux

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I would look for young players and picks if I were Flip.

While rebuilding after losing your franchise player and Rubio is still so young seems like the logical course, for the first time since Garnett left the team looked like it was heading out of lottery hell. I doubt they want to hit the reset button now that the fans are just getting back into the team.

A thoughtful look at the GS offer from A Wolf Among Wolves

Posted by corndeaux

Member since Sep 2009

9634 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:36 am to TigerinATL

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. I doubt they want to hit the reset button now that the fans are just getting back into the team.

The fans probably know Thompson/Lee for Love/Martin isn't getting them into the playoffs in the West. If they couldn't do it last year with an absurd season from Love, it isn't happening without him.

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the eventual trade of Kevin Love hasn’t left me devastated or annoyed or angry. It’s just been something that we all knew was a possibility when David Kahn put the Wolves in the situation of three years with an opt out.

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Posted by corndeaux

Member since Sep 2009

9634 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:44 am to corndeaux

Also, Ziller's top 75 FA

LINK

Bosh over Melo at 2

Posted by TigerinATL

Member since Feb 2005

61503 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:49 am to corndeaux

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The fans probably know Thompson/Lee for Love/Martin isn't getting them into the playoffs in the West.

But there is a big difference between a 39 win team and a 25 win team. With a 39 win team you get to fool yourself into thinking if you get the right breaks you can make it until about the last month of the season. The Wolves blogger brings up a valid point, does Flip want to coach a rebuild? This all could be posturing too. You have enough teams bidding that you can get everyone's best deal on the table. Boston was in the lead 4 days ago, Denver 2 days ago, Golden State today. Cleveland's probably next, maybe the Embid injury will make Cleveland more serious about going after Love once they've got their new coach's contract settled.

Posted by brmark70816

Atlanta, GA

Member since Feb 2011

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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:59 am to corndeaux

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Thompson is good, but he's not max good. David Lee is the real problem though. Lee is considerably worse than Love at everything and is paid roughly the same amount over the next two years. If they have to include Lee there needs to be more sweetener than just Thompson. Love is easily a top 10 player in the league. This would be a quarter and a dime for a dollar.

I really like Lee and think he gets paid right at what he should be. He is a top 10 PF and a former all star. One of the rare 20/10 guys in the league. He isn't as good as Love, but he isn't horrible and it's not a bad contract. I think he can be flipped pretty easy, if they really just wanted the room. I kind of think you are underselling him here.

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I would look for young players and picks if I were Flip. A Boston offer seems the best to me, though Cleveland might be more desperate to deal now that Embiid is riskier. Parker would be a nice fit

I don't think Love wants to go to either place. Those might be better value, but if isn't down for it then it's not going to happen..

Posted by teke184

Zachary, LA

Member since Jan 2007

95527 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:23 pm to brmark70816

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I would look for young players and picks if I were Flip. A Boston offer seems the best to me, though Cleveland might be more desperate to deal now that Embiid is riskier. Parker would be a nice fit
I don't think Love wants to go to either place. Those might be better value, but if isn't down for it then it's not going to happen..

I can see him going to Boston because Ainge has put a winner together before.

Cleveland, though? N*gga, please. They couldn't keep Luol Deng happy for more than two weeks. No way that Kevin Love stays there longer than he has to.

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Posted by TigerinATL

Member since Feb 2005

61503 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:25 pm to teke184

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Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA · 10m

Rival executives expect the New Orleans Pelicans to be very active this offseason. "Keep an eye on them in draft, trades and FA," says a GM.

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Posted by corndeaux

Member since Sep 2009

9634 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:42 pm to teke184

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Cleveland, though? N*gga, please. They couldn't keep Luol Deng happy for more than two weeks. No way that Kevin Love stays there longer than he has to.

All they need is for him to opt in. He will not sign an extension with anyone.

If he's smart, he'll go to the East. Kyrie, Love, Varejao in the East is a playoff core. Blatt is a good hire. Gilbert is still a shitshow though.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill

Baton Rouge

Member since Mar 2010

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Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:43 pm to TigerinATL

Things are about to get VERY interesting I think. Feels like a big shape up is coming.

Posted by iAmThatMan

Member since Jan 2014

1879 posts

Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:42 pm to TigerinATL

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Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA · 10m

Rival executives expect the New Orleans Pelicans to be very active this offseason. "Keep an eye on them in draft, trades and FA," says a GM.

Hhmmm...Interesting to say the least...I wonder what type of deals we could possibly be looking into.

This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 6:42 pm