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re: Graham's agent is in town to negotiate contract
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:25 pm to CocoLoco
Posted on 6/17/14 at 7:25 pm to CocoLoco
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Jimmy will get somewhere between 10-11 mil. Done.
I hate the concept of paying any TE or WR that kind of money when you have a QB who has lots of options and whos play doesn't seem to drop off when said TE or WR is not playing.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:15 pm to cssamerican
quote:Yes, but the Saints are trying to win now in this window of opportunity and top WRs already make $12 mil.
I hate the concept of paying any TE or WR that kind of money when you have a QB who has lots of options and whos play doesn't seem to drop off when said TE or WR is not playing.
I thought Jimmy would sign long term for about 9-10 before, but I think 10-11 is legit for his production.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:27 am to BlacknGold
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just a guess. seems a lot of articles have come out lately with more stats and info to argue even more reasons why Jimmy shouldn't be a WR. All I've seen in defense of Jimmy is that line up percentage stat.
All it boils down to is, if you do it for him, you must do it for all TE and positions. The glofified part of the TE will be gone. If a TE catches balls they'll call him a WR. How do you know that coming out of college? JG was part of a system that made him a pass catching TE. Had he went elsewhere with a shitty QB he indeed may have been a traditional blocking TE in the sense. If this goes thru, all the pass catching RB's wil be complaining next. Utility players will be looking to "title" themselves with whatever makes them the most money. You could argue players like Reggie Bush that are more suited at wideout can retitle themselves as WR and demand more money based on a title vs. just playing for what they are worth. JG just needs to renegotite on what the Saints feel his worth is, and if that worth is 10+mil so be it, otherwise cut bait and move on.
Posted on 6/18/14 at 11:35 am to ShlikStyck
Of the top 8 all can be argued as receivers. That's what makes them top 8...pass catching. All have WR stats
#8 – Heath Miller – Pittsburgh Steelers
Few have been a model of consistency quite like Heath Miller of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The 31-year old veteran is a solid blocker and has averaged 585 yards receiving over nine years. He’s also remarkably durable, missing just seven games in that time span and returning strong from a badly injured knee last season.
#7 – Jordan Cameron – Cleveland Browns
The mark of a great player is his ability to produce results when things around him are going less than ideal. Jordan Cameron proved that with the Cleveland Browns. Despite a myriad of turnover at the quarterback position he finished just shy of 1,000 yards and scored seven touchdowns last year.
#6 – Julius Thomas – Denver Broncos
Health was a major problem for Julius Thomas during the early part of his Denver Broncos career, but it didn’t stop him from continuing to work. It finally paid off in 2014 when he became a key cog in the offensive machine built around Peyton Manning, amassing 788 yards and 12 touchdowns.
#5 – Antonio Gates – San Diego Chargers
It’s so easy to forget about a guy like Antonio Gates because he’s been so good for so long. The San Diego Chargers, most notably Philip Rivers certainly hasn’t forgotten. The eight-time Pro Bowler finished his sixth season with at least 800 yards receiving. At age 33 he has a chance to reach both 10,000 yards and 100 touchdowns this season.
#4 – Jason Witten – Dallas Cowboys
Fathoming the fact that a Jason Witten hasn’t missed a game since 2003 is nearly impossible. The Dallas Cowboys stalwart gets it done year in and year out and will surpass 10,000 yards receiver provided that streak of durability holds. He also hasn’t finished with fewer than 850 yards since 2006.
#3 – Rob Gronkowski – New England Patriots
Putting a proper placement on Rob Gronkowski is very difficult. When he plays, the New England Patriots offense goes to a different level. He is clearly a matchup nightmare both in the open field and the red zone. However, his ongoing injury issues have begun to affect his impact, missing 14 games the past two season.
#2 – Vernon Davis – San Francisco 49ers
No man should have the size and the speed combination that Vernon Davis does but it’s for real and the San Francisco 49ers star has used both to become dominant. In 2013 alone he averaged a gaudy 16.3 yards per catch and scored an absurd 13 touchdowns. To think he did all that and missed a game is an indication of how good he is.
#1 – Jimmy Graham – New Orleans Saints
As they say the proof is in the production. No tight end in the NFL has been more prolific over the past three seasons than Jimmy Graham of the New Orleans Saints. In that span he has averaged 1169 yards and 12 touchdowns per year. His basketball player size and deep speed give defenses headaches that start the moment they see him on the schedule.
#8 – Heath Miller – Pittsburgh Steelers
Few have been a model of consistency quite like Heath Miller of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The 31-year old veteran is a solid blocker and has averaged 585 yards receiving over nine years. He’s also remarkably durable, missing just seven games in that time span and returning strong from a badly injured knee last season.
#7 – Jordan Cameron – Cleveland Browns
The mark of a great player is his ability to produce results when things around him are going less than ideal. Jordan Cameron proved that with the Cleveland Browns. Despite a myriad of turnover at the quarterback position he finished just shy of 1,000 yards and scored seven touchdowns last year.
#6 – Julius Thomas – Denver Broncos
Health was a major problem for Julius Thomas during the early part of his Denver Broncos career, but it didn’t stop him from continuing to work. It finally paid off in 2014 when he became a key cog in the offensive machine built around Peyton Manning, amassing 788 yards and 12 touchdowns.
#5 – Antonio Gates – San Diego Chargers
It’s so easy to forget about a guy like Antonio Gates because he’s been so good for so long. The San Diego Chargers, most notably Philip Rivers certainly hasn’t forgotten. The eight-time Pro Bowler finished his sixth season with at least 800 yards receiving. At age 33 he has a chance to reach both 10,000 yards and 100 touchdowns this season.
#4 – Jason Witten – Dallas Cowboys
Fathoming the fact that a Jason Witten hasn’t missed a game since 2003 is nearly impossible. The Dallas Cowboys stalwart gets it done year in and year out and will surpass 10,000 yards receiver provided that streak of durability holds. He also hasn’t finished with fewer than 850 yards since 2006.
#3 – Rob Gronkowski – New England Patriots
Putting a proper placement on Rob Gronkowski is very difficult. When he plays, the New England Patriots offense goes to a different level. He is clearly a matchup nightmare both in the open field and the red zone. However, his ongoing injury issues have begun to affect his impact, missing 14 games the past two season.
#2 – Vernon Davis – San Francisco 49ers
No man should have the size and the speed combination that Vernon Davis does but it’s for real and the San Francisco 49ers star has used both to become dominant. In 2013 alone he averaged a gaudy 16.3 yards per catch and scored an absurd 13 touchdowns. To think he did all that and missed a game is an indication of how good he is.
#1 – Jimmy Graham – New Orleans Saints
As they say the proof is in the production. No tight end in the NFL has been more prolific over the past three seasons than Jimmy Graham of the New Orleans Saints. In that span he has averaged 1169 yards and 12 touchdowns per year. His basketball player size and deep speed give defenses headaches that start the moment they see him on the schedule.
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