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re: Twice The Ice - any profit in these franchises?

Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:58 pm to
I just don't see the numbers. Those machines are $150,000 and you've still got rent and a hefty electric bill.


Of course I could be way off on these but:


$150,000 @ 4.5% for 10 years = $1554.00

Plus $500/mo for land lease, $700 for water and $1,000 for electric.



That's 2,500 bags of ice a month (83/day)to break-even. I just don't see it.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22391 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

I just don't see the numbers. Those machines are $150,000 and you've still got rent and a hefty electric bill.


Of course I could be way off on these but:


$150,000 @ 4.5% for 10 years = $1554.00

Plus $500/mo for land lease, $700 for water and $1,000 for electric.



That's 2,500 bags of ice a month (83/day)to break-even. I just don't see it.
Yep - that's about what I was seeing. They're cool, but you can't put "cool" on a deposit slip.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98381 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 6:49 am to
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That's 2,500 bags of ice a month (83/day)to break-even. I just don't see it.


Could work near a lake or beach in S. Florida, or someplace else it's warm year round. Even in Louisiana, you're not getting much traffic in Jan-Feb.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37171 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:46 am to
$150K is the most expensive model. Most of the ones I see are the midsize model which I'm guessing is significantly less.

I think you need to deploy a few of these on land which you already own, and be handy enough to fix them when they break.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:04 am to
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$700 for water


700 dollars for water?

seems like a lot, unless i'm missing something
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I just don't see the numbers. Those machines are $150,000 and you've still got rent and a hefty electric bill.


Of course I could be way off on these but:


$150,000 @ 4.5% for 10 years = $1554.00

Plus $500/mo for land lease, $700 for water and $1,000 for electric.



That's 2,500 bags of ice a month (83/day)to break-even. I just don't see it.


I wish I had you before I started my glass business I just bought a bunch of shite and went to work. Took a couple more years than I thought it would to get going.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/6/15 at 8:44 am to
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Those machines are $150,000 and you've still got rent and a hefty electric bill.
If the business model doesn't work at $150,000, then why aren't there plenty of used machines available for less cost from failed business owners?
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