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re: Using the Will Cover method for car buying

Posted on 6/26/14 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Nicely played and well done!


Will, talk me out of negotiating an extended warranty on the deal I am going to help with this weekend...

Also, convince me to cancel the extended on my car that I bought 2 months ago and get a refund.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38511 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 4:28 pm to
The reason why I am against them is because most extended warranties are overpriced.

Take the money that you would normally fork over for an extended warranty and put it aside in a "separate emergency fund" for repairs.

Also, if you're buying certified used, I believe an extended warranty isn't necessary as often times the used certified car warranty is better than a new car warranty.

quote:

55% of people who bought an extended warranty never used it. Of the 45% who did use it, on average, they spent more on the warranty than it paid for repairs.


- Clark Howard


Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

55% of people who bought an extended warranty never used it. Of the 45% who did use it, on average, they spent more on the warranty than it paid for repairs.


Thats the kind of stats I was looking for
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Where exactly do you get that info?


I got it the first time because I bought a vehicle through an employee program. I kept the paperwork and take it with me to the dealership to let them know that I know about these costs.
When I bought my Camry last month, I took it with me, showed it to the dealer and he showed me the same paperwork on the vehicle I was looking at. Kept that copy too.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:28 am to
The holdback was available online - kbb/edmunds/truecar I don't remember exactly which. I have a friend in the biz & called him with the VIN & he looked it up to confirm & found out how long it had been on the lot. Neither of those facts did much other than confirm to the dealer that I was serious and had done my homework.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:33 am to
I don't want to get into too much detail, but thoughts on what to hold out for today? She fricked up by telling the salesperson she was very interested int he car.

08' w/ 48k miles... Certified (Its one of the big luxury Manufactuers)

KBB shows value between 19,700 - 21,400.

They've had the vehicle on the lot for over 30 days

Was listed at 19,900 and took it down to 18,900 two days ago

It has red leather, which is the reason I think it isn't selling... Most people don't like, but some do...

I'm thinking 20k including TT&L

Thoughts?
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:04 pm to
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Sometimes the hassel isnt worth it, especially for a "mini" $100


Minis only 100?? Want a job??
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:11 pm to
I was told today I was not allowed to make money on a deal because we were all rich and didn't need it.

I think it is forgotten that Dealerships are actually a business. Forgive us for trying to make money. How dare we.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Coach Guidry


Can you read my last post, 2 above this and give me some quick insight? About to head to the dealer.

Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:20 pm to
looking now..
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:21 pm to
Whats the make?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Whats the make?


Audi TT
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:43 pm to
18,450 would be ideal, but that price is not terrible.

See if they will do 18, then come back with 18300.
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:28 pm to
We're in the market for a 2012-2013 infiniti qx56. Is the deluxe touring option really worth the expense? Also, most dealers around Baton Rouge seem to not be willing to work much with their listed price...What's a good price for a 2013 qx56 with deluxe touring and say a tech package with about 29,000 miles?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:04 am to
Ended up being one hell of a clusterfrick, but in the end, used a few of the Will Cover methods and ended up getting a decent price
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I was told today I was not allowed to make money on a deal because we were all rich and didn't need it.

I think it is forgotten that Dealerships are actually a business. Forgive us for trying to make money. How dare we.


Coach, just curious. If a person comes in to buy a vehicle and says "I will pay $500 over dealer cost", what is your response?

I'm sure it's based on popularity of vehicle, how quickly they move in general, but is that a "fair" offer? Would you do a deal quickly on a slow moving vehicle in a scenario like that, or one you have a bunch on the lot?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 8:31 am to
No dealership is going to stay in business making $500 a vehicle.
Posted by cmlsu
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2011
659 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:08 am to
quote:

No dealership is going to stay in business making $500 a vehicle.


What about saying upfront I'll give you four percent over invoice/wholesale price.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80095 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:17 am to
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No dealership is going to stay in business making $500 a vehicle.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but dealerships don't make their real money on individual sales, it is on the bonuses they get for selling X amount of cars a month

I could have sworn a few years back that I was told by a family friend who was mgr of a dealership that if they hit X number of sold for that month, the dealership got a 200k kickback from the manufacturer...


ETA: And don't they make a killing on services?
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 9:21 am
Posted by Coach Guidry
Member since Nov 2007
2333 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:31 am to
500.00 over cost would be great. In my dealership...we rely on volume. As for getting the kickbacks...that's not every manufacturer. GMC, Ford, and Dodge are the main ones who receive those. We do receive them, but not that high of a payout.
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