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re: Negotiating Salary for New Job - Satisfied with Initial Offer

Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:30 am to
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:30 am to
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Ok, maybe I am wrong, but how is this even legal?

It's not in many states. I know you can't in La or Tx.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:37 am to
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It's not in many states. I know you can't in La or Tx.


Yeah, thats what I thought... How is it even relevant?

You should get paid for what the requirements of the new job are and how much the company feels you will contribute. What you have previously made has no fricking bearing on that.

Its nothing more than a "Well, you were only making X previously, so you only deserve X+1, not X+5 like we were considering paying"
Posted by nelatf
NELA
Member since Jan 2011
2296 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:55 am to
Short answer - if you like the company and want to work for them, don't get greedy.


Being happy at a job is something to cherish in today's world.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6284 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:05 am to
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Being happy at a job is something to cherish in today's world.


Bingo.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32458 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 7:43 pm to
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Its nothing more than a "Well, you were only making X previously, so you only deserve X+1, not X+5 like we were considering paying"


I definitely agree with this, past salary has no bearing on what you should make in the new position.

And to the OP, I would probably just take the offer.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24926 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:30 pm to
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Looks like in La, the employer cannot disclose salary info


This is incorrect. Employers can say pretty much whatever they want to about you as long as it is true. Now most employers don't give out much information by choice because they don't want to get involved and don't want to risk giving out something that may be construed as inaccurate. Just because they usually WON'T doesn't mean they CAN'T.

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Just looked it up, it varies heavily from state to state and there are some pretty stiff penalties if the employer discloses anything outside of what is in the law.


Where did you look this up? What are the "stiff penalties" if an employer provides accurate information about your salary?

Be careful googling legal advice.

Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24926 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:32 pm to
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Yeah, thats what I thought... How is it even relevant?


While I agree it shouldn't necessarily have a bearing on what the new company pays you, it can be relevant to checking honesty/integrity in some cases (like this one perhaps). Better to tell them you don't think it's relevant than to lie about it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80151 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 5:56 pm to
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This is incorrect. Employers can say pretty much whatever they want to about you as long as it is true. Now most employers don't give out much information by choice because they don't want to get involved and don't want to risk giving out something that may be construed as inaccurate. Just because they usually WON'T doesn't mean they CAN'T.


That's not what the statute says

LINK


This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24926 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 6:00 pm to
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That's not what the statute says


Nothing in that statute precludes an employer from disclosing an employee's accurate compensation information.

ETA: That statute actually provides an affirmative defense / presumption of no liability to employers for providing certain types of information. Conversely, it doesn't preclude the disclosure of any information whatsoever, except for false information.

That statute is actually very protective of employers in this context rather than protective of employees.
This post was edited on 6/6/14 at 6:08 pm
Posted by AdamDeMamp
$900.00
Member since Jul 2013
3276 posts
Posted on 6/6/14 at 8:57 pm to
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Being happy at a job is something to cherish in today's world. 


Smart man. ESPECIALLY if you have a young family with young children or expecting children in the next few years. I took a higher paying job and regret my decision a good bit because it cut into my family time.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 6/9/14 at 7:36 am to
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Just looked it up, it varies heavily from state to state and there are some pretty stiff penalties if the employer discloses anything outside of what is in the law and gets caught.
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