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re: Dad Pummeled An 11-Year-Old Kid For Bullying His 9-Year-Old Autistic Son
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:47 pm to Peazey
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:47 pm to Peazey
quote:
You don't touch other people's children. It isn't your place.
If your friend is over at your house and they cause a ruckus, your parents are going to spank your friend.
I've been pulled by the hair if it's long enough, and ear if I got in too much a physical state that my mom wanted to deal with.
Then I was punished accordingly.
What happened on the bus was one step beyond this in that the kid was restrained. Threats are threats, like I got when I was moved into the corner for being a bad kid.
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:50 pm to Pectus
quote:
Threats are threats, like I got when I was moved into the corner for being a bad kid.
Are you saying threatening to kill an 11 year old is normal?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:52 pm to jacks40
quote:
Are you saying threatening to kill an 11 year old is normal?
One time some girls my age told a younger girl to go and spit on me. When she did, I pushed her to the wall and held her up a little and said, "don't you ever do that again."
I was in 6th grade going into 7th...she may have been in first.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:53 pm to Pectus
quote:
One time some girls my age told a younger girl to go and spit on me. When she did, I pushed her to the wall and held her up a little and said, "don't you ever do that again." I was in 6th grade going into 7th...she may have been in first.
That's pretty much the same as a 44 year old man threatening to kill an 11 year old and the other kids on the bus.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:53 pm to Pectus
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How many times did his son come to him with the same report of being bullied on the bus?
The article doesn't say. None of us knows. Not sure why it matters, the father handled this poorly unless he exhausted all other options. Again, none of us know but the article doesn't say the father had taken any other measures before this.
The article suggests (although it isn't clear) that the father had likely not had any encounter with the alleged bully or talked to the alleged bully before since the boy pointed out who it was when he and his father entered the bus. Maybe this isn't the case, but it sounds like the father's first attempt to address the situation was to go on a school bus and get violent with an 11 year old child. That is irresponsible and as the article suggests criminal.
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How is this any different than how your parents treated you when you were in big trouble?
It's a lot different. Start with the fact that the standards for laying your hand on your own child are very different than the standards for laying your hands on someone else's child. Next, when I was disciplined by my parents, they sat me down, usually pretty calmly explained what I had done wrong, why it was wrong, and why I was getting punished (whether is was spanking, taking some privilege away, or grounding me). I don't remember my parents ever pulling my hair, shoving me against the wall or causing an open gash of any sort on my skin.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:58 pm to Pectus
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If your friend is over at your house and they cause a ruckus, your parents are going to spank your friend.
Not a shot in hell, and it would have caused a real ordeal if they did. My parents would have called his parents and had him taken home, like I think normal responsible adults would. It's their responsibility to discipline their kids.
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What happened on the bus was one step beyond this in that the kid was restrained. Threats are threats, like I got when I was moved into the corner for being a bad kid.
Your parents threatened to kill you? That's kind of disturbing.
And the point still stands that we have no idea what kind of recourse the father sought prior to assaulting the child, and we have no idea what the bullying consisted of.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 12:59 pm to elposter
Good points.
FWIW, I agree with you, just seeing where you come from is all. Most posters weren't lucky enough to have parents like this. That's why they think this kind of justice is worth it, and not over the top.
Hope your explanations here are recognized as being the sane response that the man should have taken.
@jacks40
Oh I agree. And I'm ashamed. And so should this father be.
FWIW, I agree with you, just seeing where you come from is all. Most posters weren't lucky enough to have parents like this. That's why they think this kind of justice is worth it, and not over the top.
Hope your explanations here are recognized as being the sane response that the man should have taken.
@jacks40
quote:
That's pretty much the same as a 44 year old man threatening to kill an 11 year old and the other kids on the bus.
Oh I agree. And I'm ashamed. And so should this father be.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:00 pm to Pectus
quote:
One time some girls my age told a younger girl to go and spit on me. When she did, I pushed her to the wall and held her up a little and said, "don't you ever do that again." I was in 6th grade going into 7th...she may have been in first.
This is a completely different situation than an adult doing the same thing to a child. You stood up for yourself. Good for you.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:06 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:
Pummeled
Assumed he beat the kids face in when I read this. So tugging on hair and shoving someone is considered a pummeling these days?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:07 pm to Prominentwon
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I have no problem with this.
I would have probably done the same.
I remember this kid was picking on my neighbor. My dad was outside, I was in the back yard, because I hated Glover. Well Glover had punched my neighbor with a brass knuckle a few days back. This time he was just slapping him.
My dad ran over and picked glover up by his neck and threw him against a wall.
Glover didn't come back for ten+ years, and when he did it was because at that time he was our dealer.
But my dad never did that for me, I had to stand for myself, but he took up for my neighbor who didn't have a Dad.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:09 pm to Byron Bojangles III
A little liberal with the use of the word pummel.
Sounds like dad got in the lad's face and let him know picking on autistic kids isn't the best idea.
Sounds like dad got in the lad's face and let him know picking on autistic kids isn't the best idea.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:23 pm to LT
Dad should have found another "bully" on the bus and put him on the payroll. One of my twins was being picked on by an older boy on their bus. We went to the bus driver, principal, and counselor...zero help.
A cousin of theirs (the same age as the bully) rode the bus with them the next week. Kid started his shite and my nephew got off at his stop and broke his nose. Problem = solved.
A cousin of theirs (the same age as the bully) rode the bus with them the next week. Kid started his shite and my nephew got off at his stop and broke his nose. Problem = solved.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:39 pm to Clyde Tipton
I'd tell my kids if the bully(a month or two) keeps pushing them to walk right up to the bully and punch him/her in the mouth. No excuses for being a bully! id be fine with a suspension given by the school since they probably would have done nothing to stop it! Two wrongs dont make a right but hey after that then i bet the other kids family would understand how bullying works and know what their child had been doing
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:53 pm to FLObserver
You can always find out who the parents are. A 13 y/o hit my (then) 7 y/0 about 10 years ago. I told him to let the teacher and principal know and that if ever happened again to let me know right away. Little prick hit him again a few days later. I asked him if he knew where the little fellow lived. Sooo we went to the boys house and found his dad outside washing his car. Long story short...I went a little overboard but got the point across. The parents were actually pretty level headed. I apologized for my assholery later.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 1:57 pm to Byron Bojangles III
How do we know the autistic kid wasn't lying about the perp?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:06 pm to Cracker
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How do we know the autistic kid wasn't lying about the perp?
They never lie. Haven't you seen Rainman?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:12 pm to Byron Bojangles III
Dad prolly crossed the line when it comes to the law, but.. So what, sounds like the punk deserved it.. Protect what you love to the fullest breh.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 2:39 pm to Byron Bojangles III
When my daughter was 6 or 7, she had problems with a particular boy at school. I went to eat lunch with her at school one day. In the cafeteria she pointed out the little rapscallion and as he ate his lunch I gave him "the look" and when he made eye contact I shook my head with an angry scowl on my face.
Needless to say he never bothered her again.
Needless to say he never bothered her again.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 3:16 pm to JuiceTerry
Not replying to anyone in particular, just sharing my little story.
My son is 16 and autistic. I would say high functioning, compared to other kids I have
seen that he's gone to school with.
2-3 years ago he had an incident with a classmate (it was a school for special needs and challenged
students). I had been to his school enough times to know most of the kids faces and
some names. I recognized the name of the kid my son was having a problem with as my son
had mentioned having problems with him before (by the way, this kid was supposedly very ADHD, not mentally
handicapped or disabled). My words to him were along the lines of,
"tell your friends, tell your teacher, if she won't listen, go to the principle. If nothing
changes, I will meet with the teacher or principle."
Apparently this had changed nothing and he assured me he had spoke with the teacher.
I asked him repeatedly if this boy that was bothering him was just saying things or actually
hitting, or harming him. My son said he did actually hit him once. At that point I
told my son that if you are in physical pain, do something. You don't have to hit him,
but you can block him if you can, or wrestle him, or something.
This all came to a head on a day I was going to some Student/Parent lunch thing
the school was having (maybe a Field Day for the kids also). This boy had finally pushed
my son, literally and figuratively and my son punched him in the ear hard enough to knock
this kid down. Kid went crying, running away, my son was upset his anger got the best of
him, but even the teacher told me that day this kid was been exceptionally shitty to my
son and she did not blame my son one bit. She did say the boy had been in time-out (whoopty-fricking-doo)
and punished for recess, but still didn't stop.
Now. I had talked to my son. He tried his best, I truly believe he did, to avoid the confrontation,
but had finally had enough.
2 Things though:
1) I NEVER thought it a good idea to confront this little shite for bothering my son. Had it not
happened the way it did, a teacher, a principle, and a parent would have gotten a sound arse-chewing
that day
2) At NO POINT would any parent be allowed to touch nor threaten my son. I can't even imagine what I
would to if some adult put his hands on my son. My son is MINE to dicipline, not yours.
If there's some issue the kids can't resolve, then be a fricking adult and talk to me about it.
Could be your kid is just a shite-head, could be that it's my kid that is. But it's not for an
adult to threaten, much less rough up a kid EVER.
I mean, come the frick on...as an adult you can't out-think, out-smart, or just deal with
an 11 year old fricking with your kid?
For the record, yes, that was the last time that kid messed with my son. They actually got along for
the rest of the year.
My son is 16 and autistic. I would say high functioning, compared to other kids I have
seen that he's gone to school with.
2-3 years ago he had an incident with a classmate (it was a school for special needs and challenged
students). I had been to his school enough times to know most of the kids faces and
some names. I recognized the name of the kid my son was having a problem with as my son
had mentioned having problems with him before (by the way, this kid was supposedly very ADHD, not mentally
handicapped or disabled). My words to him were along the lines of,
"tell your friends, tell your teacher, if she won't listen, go to the principle. If nothing
changes, I will meet with the teacher or principle."
Apparently this had changed nothing and he assured me he had spoke with the teacher.
I asked him repeatedly if this boy that was bothering him was just saying things or actually
hitting, or harming him. My son said he did actually hit him once. At that point I
told my son that if you are in physical pain, do something. You don't have to hit him,
but you can block him if you can, or wrestle him, or something.
This all came to a head on a day I was going to some Student/Parent lunch thing
the school was having (maybe a Field Day for the kids also). This boy had finally pushed
my son, literally and figuratively and my son punched him in the ear hard enough to knock
this kid down. Kid went crying, running away, my son was upset his anger got the best of
him, but even the teacher told me that day this kid was been exceptionally shitty to my
son and she did not blame my son one bit. She did say the boy had been in time-out (whoopty-fricking-doo)
and punished for recess, but still didn't stop.
Now. I had talked to my son. He tried his best, I truly believe he did, to avoid the confrontation,
but had finally had enough.
2 Things though:
1) I NEVER thought it a good idea to confront this little shite for bothering my son. Had it not
happened the way it did, a teacher, a principle, and a parent would have gotten a sound arse-chewing
that day
2) At NO POINT would any parent be allowed to touch nor threaten my son. I can't even imagine what I
would to if some adult put his hands on my son. My son is MINE to dicipline, not yours.
If there's some issue the kids can't resolve, then be a fricking adult and talk to me about it.
Could be your kid is just a shite-head, could be that it's my kid that is. But it's not for an
adult to threaten, much less rough up a kid EVER.
I mean, come the frick on...as an adult you can't out-think, out-smart, or just deal with
an 11 year old fricking with your kid?
For the record, yes, that was the last time that kid messed with my son. They actually got along for
the rest of the year.
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