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re: Tennessee to bring back the chair due to drug shortage
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:15 am to Patron Saint
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:15 am to Patron Saint
Was going to post something similar. I'm not against the death penalty, but a common argument for it is its cost effectiveness compared to housing an inmate long term.
The death penalty system is ineffcient to say the least and not as cost-effective due to the high cost of trials(during which time you are housing inmates anyway on death row for close to 15 years on average).
Now if we changed our philosophy on how we approach appeals and wait time to execution it would be cost effective.
Of course I would also be interested in health care costs for inmates as they approach the end of double life terms .
The death penalty system is ineffcient to say the least and not as cost-effective due to the high cost of trials(during which time you are housing inmates anyway on death row for close to 15 years on average).
Now if we changed our philosophy on how we approach appeals and wait time to execution it would be cost effective.
Of course I would also be interested in health care costs for inmates as they approach the end of double life terms .
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Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:19 am to Stringer Bell
Would have gone with firing squad.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:19 am to Patron Saint
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And that's coming from a conservative news source whose majority of viewers probably support the death penalty.
That's why I specifically posted the link from Forbes. Fiscally conservative minded folks should know the costs involved with death penalty trials, even if they disagree with the amount of protection afforded by law (which is a conversation for a diffferent day).
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:25 am to Seymour
Some people need to be put down even if it's not cost effective
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:28 am to Stringer Bell
Just bring back the executioner with a mask and a giant axe
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:29 am to Patron Saint
All that proves is we should execute these vermin immediately upon a guilty verdict and not house them for 15+ years. I fully support this.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:29 am to Stringer Bell
Absolutely!
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:31 am to Stringer Bell
I still think that we should have multiple methods available, and then the public should get to text in a vote for a fee to determine how it gets carried out. Once the method is determined, then it should be a pay-per-view event with all the money collected from the process going to the victims families as restitution.
edit to add some of the money collected could be used to offset the cost of the trial as well, these pay-per-views could make millions
edit to add some of the money collected could be used to offset the cost of the trial as well, these pay-per-views could make millions
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:32 am to weadjust
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Said the Gas Chamber was brutal.
Good, lets go with that then. These sick fricks do not deserve a pleasant death. Read what they did to their victims.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:34 am to ithad2bme
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I still think that we should have multiple methods available, and then the public should get to text in a vote for a fee to determine how it gets carried out. Once the method is determined, then it should be a pay-per-view event with all the money collected from the process going to the victims families as restitution.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:35 am to ithad2bme
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I still think that we should have multiple methods available, and then the public should get to text in a vote
This isn't The Voice.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:38 am to shawnlsu
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All that proves is we should execute these vermin immediately upon a guilty verdict and not house them for 15+ years
Yeah, because no innocent person has every been wrongfully convicted in a highly emotional death penalty case
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:40 am to Seymour
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Fiscally conservative minded folks should know the costs involved with death penalty trials
Which is why the system needs to be updated. Older crimes that occurred when testing procedures and evidence collection was suspect should be allowed to go with the current system. But now days we have sufficient technology and procedures in place to know in a quicker time frame whether or not someone is truly guilty of the sick crime they performed. This 15-20 years of appeals needs to end. Expedite the process and allow it to be more cost efficient.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 10:48 am to Stringer Bell
I really don't understand why they haven't already just moved on to nitrogen asphyxiation. You don't even have to have a chamber. It's an inert gas that is relatively cheap. He'l, you could even make them put on a gas mask, hook it up to a nitrogen bottle and then voila' ...they are dead. No mess to clean up. Clean the respirator, send bottle out for a refill....wash, rinse, and repeat.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:28 am to Seymour
That's bullshite too. The costs incurred during a death penalty trial are costs that would have, for the most part been paid either way. The prosecutors are salaried, the judge is salaried, the assistant district attorneys are salaried and all get paid whether there is a trial or not. Many times the defense attorneys are from some antideath penalty organization that works pro bono. The appeals run up the costs but that can be addressed by legislation against frivolous appeals.
This post was edited on 5/23/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:40 am to Jake88
If anyone bothered to read the article, it specifically states that the cost would still be dramatically increased in death penalty cases compared to life sentence cases even if you eliminate appeals. Also, it's more expensive to house inmates on death row than inmates who are serving life sentences. Literally every single part of capital punishment is more expensive than a life sentence.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:41 am to Jake88
The problem lies with appeals which are necessary due to the fact that we don't always get it right. Roughly 10% (1379 executed, 144 exonerated)of convictions have been been later found to be innocent sence the ban on the death penalty was lifted in the GA case. The state of California alone would save 1 billion dollars every five years if they did away with the death penalty. I'm all for the death penalty in theory but when put into practice it fails. We should do away with it as a whole. As it stands right now it costs more to execute someone opposed to LWOP and we still can't get it right even close to all the time.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:44 am to TigernMS12
Also, I understand that most people on death row did something horrific, but I fail to see how executing them shows that we are above them in any way.
Posted on 5/23/14 at 11:53 am to Patron Saint
And as to the poster that was saying technology should make it faster today that's bullshite. Majority of capital cases are still tried on eye witness accounts and DNA doesn't come into play in most cases. Rape is the only offense where DNA is used at a high rate. CSI is tv not reality
Posted on 5/23/14 at 12:05 pm to weadjust
Killing someone is killing someone. Just make it happen. Anyway you do it, someone dies. Stop sugar coating it and just do it
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