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re: Whitewater kayaking in the southeast

Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:45 am to
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:45 am to
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. The Chatooga is filled with undercut rocks and it only takes one mistake or overestimation of your skill to get you in serious trouble.


If you've ever seen the Chattooga or the Gauley when the water is really low, it will make you think. The rocks look like mushrooms with holes big enough for you to get plugged into them below the water level.

The problem with a lot of the rapids on rivers in the SE is that they are class III setups, but class V frick ups. If you wind up in the water, you've got the potential for a serious problem.

I had a guide friend who was pulled up in a pool eating lunch with a group on the Chattooga once & a floater who had been in the water for a couple weeks washed up beside them. I guess a body will finally swell up enough to pop out of a snag & surface. She said it kind of put a damper on the trip.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 11:50 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:47 am to
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'm looking to rent a kayak for the day somewhere in Tennessee or north Carolina and do some mild class 2 or 3 rapids. You know, at an outfitter who will rent you the boat, then drop you off upstream. I've looked at a lot of websites and they all talk about rafting trips, or kayaking lessons, but I have yet to see anyone mention kayak rentals.

Anyone know a good place you can do this at, or have any good recs on where to go?


Never do this alone, particularly as a beginner or even novice. Snags are a major hazard running rivers, make sure you have someone to free you if you get held under by trees, or even rocks.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:48 am to
Did any of you guys who worked at NOC ever work the Nolichucky?

There was a guide there that looked exactly like The Dude.

I must have asked him "where's the money Lebowski" about 50 times that day.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:55 am to
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Did any of you guys who worked at NOC ever work the Nolichucky?


I did. But you just described half the staff when I was working there.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 11:57 am to
Have you ever done the Cheoah?

That's on my bucket list.

But they only release water from the dam like for a couple months out of the year right?
Posted by Tigerbait46
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:16 pm to
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I used to take my beginner friends to the Broad River when I was attending UGA. It was safe and a good learning river and the scenery was great.


Would this be a good river for an overnight camping trip? I have 13' rec/day touring kayak and have been looking for flatwater rivers near ATL to take a trip on.
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:11 pm to
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The problem with a lot of the rapids on rivers in the SE is that they are class III setups, but class V frick ups. If you wind up in the water, you've got the potential for a serious problem.


No doubt. Ton of rivers I have done, have class 3 moves with class 5 consequence. Jawbone on the Chattooga comes to mind.
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Have you ever done the Cheoah?


Yes, it's awesome. I have done it as high as 1400 cfs (cubic feet/sec).

Schedule
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:37 pm to
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Jawbone on the Chattooga comes to mind.


Crack in the Rock. If you eat it upstream of that one, you're going to have a bad afternoon.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 2:03 pm to
My favorite rapid on the Chattooga is the corkscrew.

Only a class III but if you do it right and land your raft on the big flat rock, you come spinning out of there like a helicopter.

Fun fun rapid
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 2:04 pm to
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My favorite rapid on the Chattooga is the corkscrew.


Agree, I love Corkscrew.

I was a pretty competent class 4 guy, and I have never run crack...i usually walk crack all the way down to Soc Em Dog.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 2:43 pm to
That's gotta be a long walk if you skip crack and jawbone
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:13 pm to
I have only run crack once and I was sketched out. I am about 50% on Jawbone, hydro scares me.

It's not too long of a walk, I paddle right up the edge of crack and walk probably 100 yards...
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:28 pm to
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I was a pretty competent class 4 guy, and I have never run crack...i usually walk crack all the way down to Soc Em Dog.


Once again, it's a class III setup, but the consequences of a mistake can be catastrophic.

When I mentioned Chattooga at high water, this vid I found on Youtube is pretty close to what we ran. It gets fun around the 4:00 mark. Five Falls doesn't even look like the same river. All the regular approaches & lines go out the window. It was awesome, and I would never do it again. Well, maybe I would once the kids are through college.

LINK
Posted by CidCock
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:34 pm to
I have ran section 4 at 2.5 and that's as much as I'll do.

I've heard people getting out there a 5 or 6, no thanks. Not me.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:37 pm to
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I have ran section 4 at 2.5 and that's as much as I'll do.

I've heard people getting out there a 5 or 6, no thanks. Not me.


I like the beginning of the video.

Water Level: Really High
Posted by Defenseiskey
Dallas
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:21 pm to
Nantahala River in Bryson City,North Carolina. It's somewhere halfway between Smoky National Park and Asheville.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
40828 posts
Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:58 pm to
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Nantahala River in Bryson City,North Carolina. It's somewhere halfway between Smoky National Park and Asheville.


Home of the NOC. It is pretty much the place to go in the SE to learn and network.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Also, what are some good flatwater day touring river trips, particularly in the Atlanta area?


i haven't read through the whole thread to see if this was mentioned, but the Cartecay can be a good spot for beginners. Lots of paddlers there to network with. Good outfitter. And the Pinhoti Trail is right there for great mountain biking.

oh, i just saw you said flatwater; the cartecay usually isn't that.... but it's only about an hour from atlanta.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 5:40 pm to
I second the Nantahala
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