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re: I need your help paying for birth control....
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:42 am to TerryDawg03
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:42 am to TerryDawg03
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 1:43 pm to Al Dante
I still want to know why our resident libs think contraception should be a higher priority than asthma inhalers, chemotherapy, statins, kidney medicine, etc.
Paying $9 for contraception = horrible injustice
Paying $100+ a month for your child's lifesaving medication = paying your fair share.
Paying $9 for contraception = horrible injustice
Paying $100+ a month for your child's lifesaving medication = paying your fair share.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 2:08 pm to SpidermanTUba
Still waiting on spidey to respond. Please defend her fraudulent, adolescent letter asking for free stuff so she can have free "safe" sex and save up for her Venetian trip, justified by made up medical stories of her friends.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 2:13 pm to Qwerty
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Still waiting on spidey to respond. Please defend her fraudulent, adolescent letter asking for free stuff so she can have free "safe" sex and save up for her Venetian trip, justified by made up medical stories of her friends.
I iked the part about her classmate being "embarrassed" at the pharmacy counter. She SHOULD have been embarrassed because she expected to get something for nothing. She apparently didn't notice everyone else paying their copays and deductibles. Either that or she thought she was above having to pay for goods and services.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 4:21 pm to Qwerty
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Still waiting on spidey to respond.
He cuts and runs when you prove him wrong. Which happens in pretty much every thread he enters.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 7:11 pm to SavageOrangeJug
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He cuts and runs when you prove him wrong. Which happens in pretty much every thread he enters.
Yeah I've noticed. He's not the only one though.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 7:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
Are Catholics advocating banning bc? Your point is irrelevant.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 7:31 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Spidie I agree with some of your points about how ludicrous BC debate is projected by the right BUT I have to disagree with your view that there is hatred of women on here.
Seems like the only premise this OP has is hatred of women.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:15 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Seems like the only premise this OP has is hatred of women.
That comment perfectly illustrates your unbridled stupidity.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:44 am to Qwerty
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Still waiting on spidey to respond. Please defend her fraudulent, adolescent letter asking for free stuff so she can have free "safe" sex and save up for her Venetian trip, justified by made up medical stories of her friends.
I'll respond. She offered to testify in 2012. It is now more than 2 years later. She doesn't have to stay poor forever, does she? And she was mostly talking about the inability to receive contraception on a student health plan and the resulting hardships for a student to purchase them off the healthplan or buy a separate plan for that needed benefit. All because a school would like to impose its religious beliefs on the health plan available for its students.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:59 am to mmcgrath
what duty does the school have, religious or not, to provide birth control to students through its health plan?Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:01 am to mmcgrath
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inability to receive contraception on a student health plan and the resulting hardships for a student to purchase them off the healthplan
It's not the university's job to babysit her.
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needed benefit
She wanted to have sex without responsibility. That's a lifestyle choice, not a medical necessity.
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All because a school would like to impose its religious beliefs on the health plan available for its students.
You have it backwards. She CHOSE to go to a Catholic law school, then wanted to impose HER values (or lack thereof) on them. Georgetown isn't imposing anything. They allow students to use contraception and engage in casual sex. They just don't want to be an active participant. That's staying out of it, not imposing values.
Contraception has been a constitutionally protected right for nearly 50 years, and has been constitutionally protected for unmarried women for 40. There are plenty of universities that provide contraception to their students at little or no cost. Unfortunately that's not good enough for people like Sandra Fluke. She wants to force everyone to conform to her "value" system.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:07 am to Bestbank Tiger
Wasn't her testimony about medical issues that BC also helps with?
People on this board do realize that BC isn't only used as contraception, right?
Not that it should be free, but I do believe it should be covered just like any other prescription pills.
People on this board do realize that BC isn't only used as contraception, right?
Not that it should be free, but I do believe it should be covered just like any other prescription pills.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:12 am to Truckasaurus
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People on this board do realize that BC isn't only used as contraception, right?
Yes, and that's not what her testimony was about. She did mention cases where BC is used for medical conditions but those are covered by Georgetown's health policy.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:24 am to Bestbank Tiger
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A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome, and she has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries. Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown's insurance, because it's not intended to prevent pregnancy. Unfortunately, under many religious institutions' insurance plans, it wouldn't be. There would be no exception for other medical needs. And under Senator Blunt's amendment, Senator Rubio's bill or Representative Fortenberry's bill, there's no requirement that such an exception be made for these medical needs.
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For the record, here are the exact comments. There is testimony against the amendment that was proposed by Marco Rubio. That is about 3/4 of the testimony.
The other quarter does talk about people not being able to afford the coverage. ETA: (and that they need it purely for the contraception purposes)
Thanks for pointing that out, Bestbank Tiger! Had to look it up because the testimony was so long ago, I forgot what all happened.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:38 am to gthog61
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The only birth control the taxpayers should pay for is if Norplant is mandatory up until a certain age and you have to pass a qualifying test to get it removed.
I wish I could have given you 100 upvotes.
One policy that should even be debatable -- you get ONE mistake. If you have a child that you cannot afford, and the taxpayers are required to pay for such child, then you get Norplant until you can prove that you can financially take care of another child.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:17 pm to BBONDS25
quote:The argument was whether the school could forcibly remove one of the government mandated requirements for comprehensive coverage. The schools were fighting for the right to DENY this in their new coverage plans under ObamaCare.
what duty does the school have, religious or not, to provide birth control to students through its health plan?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:21 pm to MMauler
quote:It makes no sense that you would be OK with an institution removing medical coverages for contraception based on their religious beliefs but you would force contraception on the same people who would get pregnant without it. Granted, you are clearly just making sadistic comments because you think its funny...quote:I wish I could have given you 100 upvotes.
The only birth control the taxpayers should pay for is if Norplant is mandatory up until a certain age and you have to pass a qualifying test to get it removed.
One policy that should even be debatable -- you get ONE mistake. If you have a child that you cannot afford, and the taxpayers are required to pay for such child, then you get Norplant until you can prove that you can financially take care of another child.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 12:28 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:She wants to have sex responsibly, but the school's exclusion of contraceptive and other benefits restricts her ability to do so. One could also say that sex is natural and not necessarily a "lifestyle choice" for people in their 20's and 30's.
She wanted to have sex without responsibility. That's a lifestyle choice, not a medical necessity.
quote:Yet that's exactly what they are trying to do.
It's not the university's job to babysit her.
In any event, there is a debate to be had on whether or not religious groups can claim some sort of exclusions from universal healthcare requirements based on their religious beliefs. The OP here is trying to say that a woman who was talking about her experiences in college when she was a struggling college student and how her arguments are somehow invalid if she takes a vacation two years later after graduating and getting married.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:33 pm to mmcgrath
The burden is on the government to meet the standard required to violate 1st amendment rights.
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